Clearly not consulted earlier, ChatGPT weighs in on these two reasons: https://chat.openai.com/share/7cd52d82-b36b-42c6-9d13-eb7172....
Edit: even following the basic steps it outlines would've resulted in a better outcome.
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#1721) Where is Emmett? He's the CEO now. It's his job to be the public face of the company. The company is in an existential crisis and there have been no public statements after his 1AM tweet.
2) Where is the board? At a bare minimum, issue a public statement that you have full faith in the new CEO and the leadership team, are taking decisive action to stabilize the situation, and have a plan to move the company forward once stabilized.
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#173Very healthy culture. I hope Altman will teach us all about that in the next Y Combinator batch.
Unironically though to have 90+% of the employees want to follow the CEO says only good things about the ceos relationship with their employees
Yeah, it may be so. Although I wonder if they are just afraid of the snakes that took over the company.
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#174There is no way this is true. If it is the board might be the dumbest people alive. You fire the CEO and completely destroy a 90b company because of these two reasons? No wonder everyone wants out. I would think I was going crazy if I sat in a meeting and heard these two reason.
The thing I can't understand is how Emmett Shear accepted the interim CEO position. I presume he must have known this reasoning (he tweeted that he did know the reasoning). Everything I've read online is that Shear is generally well respected and competent. Then how on Earth was he willing to get anywhere near this toxic dumpster fire? It's already been reported that the former GitHub CEO and the Scale AI CEO turned…
I'm sorry to say... But my analysis is either:
he was poorly informed by the board
Or
He agrees that they are off the rails with respect to safety.
See the Atlantic article, if you havn't read. Lots of context.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38341399
The new guy believes that there is a 5-50 percent chance of full AI Armageddon. I get the impression that the two women on the board may agree. The quora guy I don't have enough background on. Ilya obviously got extremely worried and communication with Altman and Brockman broke down. Now since repaired during negotiations it would appear.
The new ceo more or less stated that he took the role as a (paraphrase) 'responsibility for mankind'. That says a lot about that whole 5-50 percent risk number imo.
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#175Still don’t get it.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#176Very healthy culture. I hope Altman will teach us all about that in the next Y Combinator batch.
Unironically though to have 90+% of the employees want to follow the CEO says only good things about the ceos relationship with their employees
Or bad things about the board/company governance, or both.
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#177What a sh*t show. For someone who is building on top of OpenAI this is very unnerving. My twitter is full of heart emojis and OpenAI is nothing without its employees.
Something to think about:
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#178As this article seems to have the latest information, let's treat it as the next instalment. There's also Inside The Chaos at OpenAI - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38341399 , which I've re-upped because it has backstory that doesn't seem to have been reported elsewhere. Edit: if you want to read about our approach to handling tsunami topics like this, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38357788 . -- Her…
By the time this saga resolves, the number of threads linked here could suffice as chapters of a book
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#179Baseless prediction: MSFT buys ownership of OpenAI's for/capped-profit entities, implements a more typical corporate governance structure, re-instates Altman and Brockman. OpenAI non-profit continues to exist with a few staff and no IP but billions in cash. This whole situation is being used to drive the price down to reduce the amount the OpenAI non-profit is left with. SV don't try the "capped-profit owned by a non…
Why would MSFT buy the for-profit entity when they already have the employees and IP?
I'm just guessing, but they probably have a restricted license to some IP,
not ownership of all title and rights to all IP.
Yep, those lawyers can be just as crafty as developers believe it or not.
*edit: just saw it claimed below Nadella said "we have all of the IP rights to continue the innovation"*
I don't know!
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#180Very healthy culture. I hope Altman will teach us all about that in the next Y Combinator batch.
Is it Altman's culture if he was first kicked out and then most of the employees are willing to follow him to the new place?