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Sounds perverse somehow.
It's literally the exact corporate structure of Mozilla.
And Bose. MIT, the nonprofit owns 100% of the for profit company
Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman
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Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman
#172Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman
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There are now 4 people left in the OpenAI non-profit board, after the ouster of both Sam and Greg today. 3 of the 4 remaining are virtual unknowns, and they control the fate of OpenAI, both the non-profit and the for-profit. Insane.
For anybody, like me, who was wondering who is actually on their board: >OpenAI is governed by the board of the OpenAI Nonprofit, comprised of OpenAI Global, LLC employees Greg Brockman (Chairman & President), Ilya Sutskever (Chief Scientist), and Sam Altman (CEO), and non-employees Adam D’Angelo, Tasha McCauley, Helen Toner. Sam is gone, Greg is gone, this leaves: Ilya, Adam, Tasha, and Helen. Adam: https://en.wikip…
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Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman
#174Link to MS statement https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/11/17/a-statement-from... In my opinion, I'd say the shortness and lack of details backs up the story that they had no idea. You'd see way more words if a marketing department had it's hands on something like this. This was 100% a get something out asap job.
What would make you think a marketing department would potentially be involved here? Besides the obvious Marketing = Bad connection prevalent here on HN?
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What's with the lowercase? I think it's cute if someone is being deliberately low-effort, or trying to present that way, but IMO it's cringe to use it for consequential official statements like this.
I'm often stunned by how casually and poorly executives write. The more rich and powerful they are, the worse it seems to be. I guess things like proper capitalization, punctuation, full sentences, etc. aren't worth their time, and people will hang on every word that they write anyway.
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#176Greg Brockman has also left: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
What's with the lowercase? I think it's cute if someone is being deliberately low-effort, or trying to present that way, but IMO it's cringe to use it for consequential official statements like this.
It 's aggressive passive
Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
They invested in the for-profit, not the non-profit. The non-profit controls the for-profit.
There are now 4 people left in the OpenAI non-profit board, after the ouster of both Sam and Greg today. 3 of the 4 remaining are virtual unknowns, and they control the fate of OpenAI, both the non-profit and the for-profit. Insane.
Is sanity normally a requirement to be on a silicon valley startup board?
Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman
#178Microsoft has a "Cloud + AI" division [1]. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sam Altman at or near the top of that organization come Monday. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_engineering_groups#C...
Why does Microsoft need him? Microsoft has some of the foremost researchers and research divisions in the world and have successfully demonstrated their ability to evolve as a business. Altman's background doesn't seem remotely enough to have such a high-level position at a company like Microsoft.
Assuage investor anxiety - it's a drop in the bucket to pay Altman virtually anything he wants to keep the market from thinking too much.
Re: Microsoft was blindsided by OpenAI's ouster of CEO Sam Altman
#179I wonder if this is one of those pivotal moments in history where OpenAI collapses or fades and Google or someone else dominates the future of AI, and we’re all left wondering “what if”.
Unless Google (or someone else) outright acquires GPT4 and future GPT research, it's unlikely that someone will suddenly overtake OpenAI. From what we've seen, no one is close to GPT4, sometimes not even GPT3.
Google didn't 'suddenly' beat out the search competition either. You don't need to. Decline takes time and there are always seeds and early signals.