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Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Post by JCharante »

ceejayoz wrote: post #144
JCharante wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Google Fi for my iPhone. What am I missing out on? (asides from using more than 1 carrier's network simultanously)

I can't add cellular service for my Apple Watch, at all. Enabling MMS requires a somewhat convoluted set of changes to the phone's cellular settings, and despite having done them correctly I periodically get a "we couldn't send you all your texts, fix your settings" warning SMS from Google.

Oh right. I have a cellular apple watch too but I've just forgotten about that.

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Post by curt15 »

daft_pink wrote: post #137

I really hope Apple allows us to disable many of RCS's features like read receipts and previews. I really don't want spammy users to start seeing read receipts, etc.

You can disable read receipts in RCS just like you can with iMessage: https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-disable-read-receipts-rcs-a...

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Post by ceejayoz »

lxgr wrote: post #162
ceejayoz wrote: post #150

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If you had wifi at home/work/school, you could send and receive without incurring any data usage at all.

True, but at least in the case of iMessage, that would also mean not being able to text all while not within Wi-Fi coverage (since Apple absolutely refuses to let people actually send an SMS to a number it considers to be participating in iMessage).

No; the iPhone launched with data plans. It just wasn't unlimited, nor were the texts. Sending an iMessage cost a lot less than ten cents of data; you could send/receive a lot more of them within your plan without overages.

(IIRC, my plan with Cingular didn't have any texts built-in, so they were 10¢ a pop, in each direction. I could send many thousands within the data plan's couple of gigabytes.)

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Post by lxgr »

hbn wrote: post #168
lxgr wrote: post #129

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> This is why I don't buy Google's bad faith shaming of Apple for not adopting RCS. Google is literally operating an RCS SaaS company for marketers and telcos, so I'd take any of their statements in support for RCS with a grain of salt: https://jibe.google.com/

Yup. The shaming campaigns are just a way to play the moral high ground in their effort to replace an actual messaging standard with their own proprietary service. SMS is certainly long overdue to be replaced, but I don't want it replaced with a Google service. Hopefully the iPhone adoption will be some incentive for carriers to implement RCS properly.

I'm afraid that the only incentive for carriers to invest anything into RCS would be being able to charge for it or use it as a way to lock in their customers.

As antiquated as SMS is, at least all carriers support it, and people largely don't need to worry about their existing conversation threads being interrupted when they switch carriers.

I believe that that's not true for RCS at least for group conversations.

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Post by averageRoyalty »

whoopdedo wrote: post #62

Is there a sunset timeline for SMS? No service lasts forever and if Apple knows carriers will want to turn it off sometime they'd have to get on board with the RCS sooner rather than too late.

Who would be in charge of sunsetting such a thing?

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Post by hot_gril »

marwis wrote: post #155

I wonder when Google will add proper RCS to their own Google Fi? Currently one has to disable Fi cloud sync losing a lot of features.

So what was the deal with Android users complaining about iPhones not supporting RCS all this time, when it's not so universal among carriers to begin with? Not to mention how many people just use WhatsApp instead.

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Post by Lazonedo »

kyralis wrote: post #58
ronyeh wrote: post #43

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But they pick an ugly shade of green though. I currently have an iPhone 15 Pro Max and have also used Android devices in the past. I like to switch each time I get a new phone. Apple definitely picks an ugly color to make you feel uncomfortable texting with a non iPhone user. They should at least let users choose the color (which will never happen).

The green predates the existence of iMessage . That green is the color that was used from the beginning of the iPhone in 2007; iMessage was only added in 2011. iMessage was given a different color than the preexisting one. Trying to claim that Apple picked an "ugly color to make you feel uncomfortable" is simply false.

iOS 4 : https://i.imgur.com/3LIpvX9.png

iOS 5 (introduction of iMessage) : https://i.imgur.com/v2Wths4.png

iOS 7: https://i.imgur.com/7k8QL3z.png

Yes, it was green before, but it didn't look so vile. Since the redesign of iOS in 7 the difference of green vs blue is a difference in legibility.

Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Post by [deleted] »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #154
no_wizard wrote: post #28

This is something I never thought I'd see. I hope the GSM association moves fast to make robust E2EE a standard required for proper implementation for carriers. That would go a long way in making a huge improvement over SMS/MMS. This is a win for RCS, ultimately. Maybe this will kick carriers into high gear to up their messaging standard support game and have standard interop. I don't think this will lead to a declin…

Can’t they support RCS but still have iPhone users blue ?

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