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Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by unboring »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #75

For me, the problem with G+ is that you can't fine-tune the signal:noise ratio enough. In a nutshell, Facebook is a network of people I know first IRL, so getting pictures of their dinner last night or latest cat's antics and other useless stuff I can sort of live with, it goes with the territory. But G+ is more like Twitter with longer posts - I follow a a lot of people I don't know IRL, but only because of a shared…

Seems like you want a system based around topics or interests. Have you tried StumbleUpon?

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by stan_rogers »

kposehn wrote: post #96

To me, G+ is a good effort from Google. They've made a concerted attempt to add a social layer on top of the core Google products that have a unique take on social functionality and some manner of utility for users. The problem comes down to engineering however - or more precisely, engineers. I have always gotten the sense that G+ is a social network for "nerds". In this context, "nerds" refers to people that (like m…

They've made a concerted attempt to add a social layer on top of the core Google products...

That is the problem with G+ for me in a nutshell, and the reason why I killed that part of my Google account. I rather liked Google+ as an environment; it was the spillover into the other Google properties that I found irksome.

Frankly, I don't mind so much that Google learns a little bit about my habits and develops recommendations that are in accordance with them. But when I visit, say, YouTube, I would like the recommendations driven by my tastes (driven by my history) and subscriptions/follows -- I don't want political or religious/anti-religious rantings driven by my professional colleagues, pseudo-scientific claptrap shared by my (otherwise interesting) meatspace friends, and so on. They've already shared that stuff on G+; I don't need it pushing down stuff that is likely more relevant to my interests (or needs) on other Google properties.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by acdha »

nailer wrote: post #156
acdha wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This does not actually work for being added to circles.

Try this instead: https://github.com/mikemaccana/japanese_mayonnaise

I'm becoming increasingly strict avoiding things like that: if Google doesn't care about wasting my attention, why help them by using their service?

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by SkyMarshal »

shadgregory wrote: post #155
unreal37 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think G+ needs to clarify whether it's aimed at "only real friends" as Facebook is, or aimed at "mainly people you don't know" a la Twitter. Once they clarify that, people will stop posting vacation photos for strangers to see, or stop posting Lisp programming tips to their personal friends.

Why didn't you tell me you hated my Lisp tips! :(

Love your Lisp tips, not your lolcats!

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by SkyMarshal »

Angostura wrote: post #154
SkyMarshal wrote: post #75

For me, the problem with G+ is that you can't fine-tune the signal:noise ratio enough. In a nutshell, Facebook is a network of people I know first IRL, so getting pictures of their dinner last night or latest cat's antics and other useless stuff I can sort of live with, it goes with the territory. But G+ is more like Twitter with longer posts - I follow a a lot of people I don't know IRL, but only because of a shared…

The fundamental problem that you are suffering is that Google+ is centered around people and yd prefer a system based around topic or interest.

Actually I want both. I don't want to hear about Lisp from some noob I don't know, I want to hear about it from Peter Norvig and the like. Need both people + topic/interest for that.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by kingsidharth »

waqf wrote: post #90
kingsidharth wrote: post #33

I hope they fix their typography too. Arial is not the way to go, especially when you allow paragraphs as posts (or essays). Line-height makes it even worse.

I just don't expect professional typography from the web yet. Can you give an example of a site that does it right?

http://37signals.com

http://facebook.com (Lucida Grande is a fab choice)

http://readability.com - one of the key things this app changes is typography.

Check out default typography on thesis theme - http://64notes.com/thesis

Examples of bad typography:

google groups, Google Plus

http://wierd.com

I've many more if you want.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by SkyMarshal »

unboring wrote: post #171
SkyMarshal wrote: post #75

For me, the problem with G+ is that you can't fine-tune the signal:noise ratio enough. In a nutshell, Facebook is a network of people I know first IRL, so getting pictures of their dinner last night or latest cat's antics and other useless stuff I can sort of live with, it goes with the territory. But G+ is more like Twitter with longer posts - I follow a a lot of people I don't know IRL, but only because of a shared…

Seems like you want a system based around topics or interests. Have you tried StumbleUpon?

No, I want a system based around both people and topics/interests. As I mentioned above, I don't want to hear about Lisp from some random folks I don't know, I want to read about it from Peter Norvig and other experts. Need to be able to cross-reference both people/posters (Circles) and topics (hashtag filtering or whatever).

I can actually get the pure topics/interest stuff from subreddits like /r/haskell and speciality sites like lamda-the-ultimate.org.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by hub_ »

acqq wrote: post #136

They still want to enforce users to use "real" (for their definition of "real") names. As I write this, my profile is "suspended" because I didn't type my real name: "Your profile is currently under review to make sure it is in compliance with the Google+ Names Policy and User Content and Conduct Policy. Reviews are typically completed within a few days." I also had to select "other" for gender, there's no option nam…

I got my profile suspended because they didn't like the way I wrote my name.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by hub_ »

iloveponies wrote: post #138
acqq wrote: post #136

They still want to enforce users to use "real" (for their definition of "real") names. As I write this, my profile is "suspended" because I didn't type my real name: "Your profile is currently under review to make sure it is in compliance with the Google+ Names Policy and User Content and Conduct Policy. Reviews are typically completed within a few days." I also had to select "other" for gender, there's no option nam…

I decided to use a name that looked real, but isn't, and isn't mine. So far, I've yet to be caught by Google. The cost of this? Explaining to friends who don't know my opinion on anonymity on the internet.

They also have numerous number of people doing so. And people kicked for using their real name. Etc.

In short it just prove the unenforceability of the policy.

I heckled them about that in a conference and when offered to get help to have my account fixed, I declined saying that the only thing they need to fix is the policy itself by retracting it and apologizing.

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