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The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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I’m a Humane employee who has worked on nearly all the Ai features in the product. We’re very happy to get this out into the world and start getting feedback!

Your AI hallucinated it's answer about the location of the eclipse. Why was this a) allowed to happen, and b) included in the video without fact-checking?

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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Apple will simply own this market as well, if it even becomes a market at all. They are by far the best positioned company and everyone already is locked in to the hardware. As soon as Siri becomes good by leveraging llm, Apple is bound to dominate here. You don't even need another device to get half of what this does. Next gen airpods/ apple watches provide similar use cases.

Seems like this Humane product has beaten Apple and Google to the punch even though they have the voice assistants for years

Because most voice assistants arent that good yet, and those companies already had products that basically maxed out the value of the voice assistants (watch/earbuds).

Humane has beaten other companies to the punch, if you count a flailing noodle arm as a "punch". This device clearly needs significantly more work on the ecosystem, accuracy of answers (it gave 2 wrong answers in the video), and actual input. The projector idea is absolutely terrible, and Im certain this will essentially end up a voice only device for the people that do buy it. The projector wont work outdoors at all, and even indoors, it looks terrible to actually use.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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post #64

I just don't get this, or any other "VUI"/voice-centric platform for that matter. The killer feature of the smartphone or watch isn't that it's the most convenient (which it is), it's that whatever you want to do on it is at least somewhat private. I don't want the guy next to me on the train to know I'm messaging Andrew, and he doesn't want to hear me message Andrew either. Asking me to speak out loud these commands…

Yes, but we lack good input methods for on the go. Typing on the phone is ok for quick texts but not much more. AR has this issue as well. I tried things like chording keyboards etc but nothing really works and so lacking that, it’s going to be voice…

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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post #64

I just don't get this, or any other "VUI"/voice-centric platform for that matter. The killer feature of the smartphone or watch isn't that it's the most convenient (which it is), it's that whatever you want to do on it is at least somewhat private. I don't want the guy next to me on the train to know I'm messaging Andrew, and he doesn't want to hear me message Andrew either. Asking me to speak out loud these commands…

I wonder where this dislike of talking to computers in public is coming from? People often discuss private topics on a train, and don't care that others might be listening. People talk loudly on the phone when in public. Some even talk on speaker phone. But noone ever talks to Siri or Google or Alexa in public. Why is that?

Because if nobody is next to you and you suddenly start talking, some people nearby will likely misperceive that you are talking to them.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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Their demo of AI Q&A in the announcement video (@3:36) is totally wrong. The Pin says the April 2024 total eclipse will be best viewed from Australia and East-Timor... Except the eclipse passes over the US and will be nowhere near Australia. The answer seems to be about a partial eclipse in April 2023. How was that not fact checked???

The demo was showing how you can interact with it. I don't think this is a big deal. If they're using GPT-4 or another model, then it will be resolved when the AI model is.

What reason do we have to believe that the underlying technology will improve enough for the product to be actually usable? Many of this product's features require a degree of trust that clearly isn't merited at this stage. An assistant that tells me to go to an event at a place it's not happening is worse than useless. Their advertising shows a person asking "can I eat this?" with a piece of fruit -- that's not a question you want a hallucinated answer to!

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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I strongly believe we need some kind of affirming visual feedback for the device. The main issue i see with a voice centric smartphone interface is the ability to control the information you see over the internet. A centralised platform like Humane network decides what information you get to consume. A visual interface allows you to navigate freely and fetch the information you need. This approach to smartphone is only restrictive.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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My gut tells me this is going to crash and burn in a hilarious way. Not only is it worse than holding a smartphone while being less useful, street kids are going to pull these off people at a phenomenal rate, leaving people with just unhappy memories alongside a battery pack swimming somewhere inside their jumper.

> street kids are going to pull these off people at a phenomenal rate, leaving people with just unhappy memories alongside a battery pack swimming somewhere inside their jumper. I can't believe I didn't think of this. Imagine a dev conference for these things... The first headline would be "Humane AI Pin Developers Cleaned Out". A group of bad actors could (would) just run down a line/through a room and snatch these…

> I can't believe I didn't think of this.

Because it’s not going to happen.

There were about a trillion sets of wired white earbuds pointing to iPods/iPhones for about a decade plus. Sure, there were some thefts, but to say they happened at a “phenomenal rate” would be nonsense. And iPods/iPhones were orders of magnitudes more popular than this Pin will ever be.

Street kids won’t even know what a Pin is.

Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The demo was showing how you can interact with it. I don't think this is a big deal. If they're using GPT-4 or another model, then it will be resolved when the AI model is.

What reason do we have to believe that the underlying technology will improve enough for the product to be actually usable? Many of this product's features require a degree of trust that clearly isn't merited at this stage. An assistant that tells me to go to an event at a place it's not happening is worse than useless. Their advertising shows a person asking "can I eat this?" with a piece of fruit -- that's not a qu…

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Re: The Humane AI Pin Launches Its Campaign to Replace Phones

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post #61

Yay privacy out of the window... AI wants to see and hear everything with access the Internet. Otherwise its hell of an interesting concept! Reminds me of the Robot Assistant in "flubber"

(i'm an investor in the company.) this is probably the most privacy-forward hardware device on the market—you have to physically be making contact with the device for it to begin listening (at which point an LED is prominently visible) and it will stop listening as soon as you break contact.

A lot of people are saying that using this device would require speaking all kinds of private things out loud in public, but people would likely alter their behavior and use of the device in public. The nature of the questions they ask would be different, they would self-censor. In private they'd use it differently. People don't watch porn on their phone in the subway (mostly) and they wouldn't state their credit card info out loud using this on a subway either. If you have to say "take a photo" then the people around you know you are taking a photo. If it can record video it should beep occasionally or something. I still don't have a complete idea of how the UI works though, can the projector project onto a wall instead of your hand? Can you listen to replies via wireless earbuds? Would like to see something more in depth about how to use it and what can be accomplished with it.
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