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Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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One thing that left me a bit confused was the comparison against Intel Macs. Although I am still using an Intel 16-inch MacBook, I really wanted to see how the M3 fared against the M2, not Intel and M1. I think it's no surprise the M3 exceeds the Intel Core i7-9750H in basically all of Apple's own benchmarking. My real question, which will probably be answered next week, is how it compares to the generation right bef…

There were comparisons to the M1 and M2 in the presentation, and indeed the linked website.

The M3 chips are 30% faster than the M2 chips for efficiency cores and 15% faster for performance cores. The overall performance is still impressive and there is no alternative to M*s when compared with performance per watt. But others have caught up, for example https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-9-7940hs is very good.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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The new M3 base model, along with only supporting one external display also loses a Thunderbolt port. A new shell / chassis just to remove a port. Courage!

The M3 base model replaces a computer with two thunderbolt ports. It now has MagSafe, 2 thunderbolt ports, HDMI, and SDXC.

How is that a downgrade?

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #139

It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

You know they announced a price cut right?

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #139

It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

I tried to find a laptop with the specification you just mentioned that could last 20 hours on battery. Didn’t.

I'm personally always near a wall socket. My laptop is mostly a desktop. When I'm out and need to use the battery, it's only for a few hours. Do people really need >8h battery life?

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #139

It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

Would be interested in a link to a model if you have one handy!

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i mean, if the machine does the job you purchased it for, is it really outdated? Unless the job it is doing is to be the best and latest, as a status symbol...

Oh I'm super happy with it - it has handled everything I've thrown at it and then some and I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon. But I feel like with the M2 Pro's having such a short shelf life, what that means for long term support.

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #139

It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

Would be interested in a link to a model if you have one handy!

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1746503-REG/lenovo_82...

B&H doesn't stock it anymore, but it looks like other places still sell it with updated specs.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Base 14" M3 MBP comes with 8 GB RAM at $1599 USD. That's pretty stingy.

And yet _still_ 8GB of RAM as the baseline. It's probably as profitable as it is evil / misleading.

8gb is pretty bad. I have an M2 Pro with 16gb, & that limit is regularly pushed, & that without regularly pushing things hard, resource-wise (then again, I've seen plenty of people on both PCs & Macs shut down whatever applications they weren't actively using when they switched between them. If testing shows that to be really common, I could see 8gb being plenty for the majority of users. Crazy user patterns, to be sure, but to each their own). If I get an M3, it will have 36 (or whatever Minis will have available) just for the headroom.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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post #175
post #139

It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

Would be interested in a link to a model if you have one handy!

That could be any gaming laptop from any manufacturer., those are the only ones who still ship with upgradable RAM and dual M.2 slots.
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