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How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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In 1985, I was in a lab at a mainframe manufacturer. It was a big room. I estimated that the room had one transistor for every man, woman, and child on the planet. (We didn't think about trans-tolerant vocabulary in those days.)

Now here that is on one chip. That change blows my mind.

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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20 years ago nobody spent any money on smartphones. Now, the money spent on them has created billions of processors with magnitudes more power than the spacecraft we're being wistful about. Consumerism rerouted itself to forwarding science. And that's just a device for watching cat videos. The carry-over between rockets and modern technology like hypersonic missiles is even greater - which is why we invented the spac…

Carry over is still not as efficient as directly spending on what you want.

If you know what you want.

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

I sure never anticipated cosmetic surgeons twerking on Instagram in their scrubs to advertise themselves between the videos of a chick jumping into a confused Labrador's mouth and that one of the kid on a bike being shocked by the existence of brown chalk when they see a Pokémon drawn on a sidewalk.

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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Imagine if all of the worlds armament budgets were instead rerouted to science and space travel...

And still mostly wasted. Look after the people on Earth first. Once we show we can accomplish that, then and only then do we begin to earn the stars.

This feels like you're unaware that, for all that remains to be done, less than half as many people are living in extreme poverty today as compared to 1990: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_poverty#/media/File:To...

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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I think we're unlucky. I think the next generation or a couple generations down the line they will figure out biological immortality. If you're immortal the sum total of things you will see in your lifetime will dwarf the experience you're having now.

And what will we do with immortality? Our organs will continue to deteriorate, especially the brain. Many older people are already quite gullible and easy to feed propaganda to, being a favored target to politicians, let alone someone 90+.

If you think that's a necessary part of immortality, you're looking at fiction inspired by the ancient Greek tale of Eos and Tithonus and not, for example, SENS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategies_for_engineered_negl...

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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I think we're unlucky. I think the next generation or a couple generations down the line they will figure out biological immortality. If you're immortal the sum total of things you will see in your lifetime will dwarf the experience you're having now.

I agree. I feel like we missed immortality by a few decades to a hundred years at the most. We might be some of the last generations that actually have to die.

I don't know which generation you're in, but I do remember people saying in the late 00s, that the first person to live to 200 had likely already been born, we just didn't know how old they were.

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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I've often struggled to really "grok" how complex chips are. They all kinda look the same. I write software, so I know how complex that is, but like the device itself -- it's this little black box. What's the difference between one little black box and another? Most people don't even get that far; they think the computer is the screen that lights up. I've been reading datasheets a lot at work. The datasheet for an ST…

If you want to gain a deeper understanding of how computers work, write an emulator of something relatively simple — GameBoy for example. This is kinda disillusioning. With the bugs you'll inevitably make, you'll understand how very, very, very dumb computers actually are. A CPU just fetches an instruction from memory, executes it, and updates the program counter. It does this indefinitely, for as long as power is ap…

"just" and "executes" are doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting here

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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I've often struggled to really "grok" how complex chips are. They all kinda look the same. I write software, so I know how complex that is, but like the device itself -- it's this little black box. What's the difference between one little black box and another? Most people don't even get that far; they think the computer is the screen that lights up. I've been reading datasheets a lot at work. The datasheet for an ST…

If you want to gain a deeper understanding of how computers work, write an emulator of something relatively simple — GameBoy for example. This is kinda disillusioning. With the bugs you'll inevitably make, you'll understand how very, very, very dumb computers actually are. A CPU just fetches an instruction from memory, executes it, and updates the program counter. It does this indefinitely, for as long as power is ap…

> there was a web-based game where you did exactly that

This is the one I played some time ago: https://nandgame.com/

Re: How many billions of transistors in an iPhone processor?

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If you want to gain a deeper understanding of how computers work, write an emulator of something relatively simple — GameBoy for example. This is kinda disillusioning. With the bugs you'll inevitably make, you'll understand how very, very, very dumb computers actually are. A CPU just fetches an instruction from memory, executes it, and updates the program counter. It does this indefinitely, for as long as power is ap…

"just" and "executes" are doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting here

Some bits in the instruction activate some logic gates in the instruction decoder that, in turn, activate and deactivate other logic gates in the control logic, and eventually the appropriate functional unit inside the CPU is configured for the thing the instruction calls for and does it. Like the ALU adding two numbers together. If it's an architecture that uses microcode, like everything x86, I suppose the instruction decoder instead (or additionally?) outputs a microcode ROM address.

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I think a moon base is actually more useful because there’s actual commercial use cases to a moon base like mining etc. and not only that but doing a mars mission is far easier and cheaper if you already have a moon base since you can make rocket fuel on the moon for cheaper in terms of delta-V if you can come up with a hydro lox chemistry design.

What could you mine on the moon that would be worth transporting home?

I gather there are asteroids with a lot of gold and platinum. Just crash one into the moon and then mine the debris.

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Modern loneliness is a far more multifaceted issue than it’s often presented as. For instance I’m sure that a major factor is the need for people to move great distances away from family and the community they grew up in to be able to find education, living wages, and other forms of opportunity. That breaks existing connections and makes it harder to form new ones, but I never see that talked about.

Those kinds of movements aren't new though: Entire generations in many a country ended up emigrating across the sea, back when it was far slower and dangerous, to make their fortunes, as their home was too poor to handle more than one son. And today we have our home culture on our phones. I can watch TV from my home country, and my home team's soccer matches live. I can video call whenever, for free. So maintain conn…

Moving itself is probably wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t as frequent, for instance if maybe moving once after college would be it for most people. That’d still give people time to set down roots.

Instead it’s often necessary to move repeatedly, for reasons varying from going to school to getting a job to finding housing with room for kids to just trying to keep rent from eating up the majority of one’s paycheck.

In my case I’ve moved 9 times in the ~15 years since I turned 20 and it’s very likely I’ll be moving again in the future. It’s been very disruptive for maintaining connections, even with the power of modern communications at my disposal. I’ve more or less grown used to it and am kind of introverted anyway so I’m not depressed but I could see where others might not be so lucky.

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