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Why every microwave sucks these days

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Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by eviks »

ForkMeOnTinder wrote: post #11

As a chronic comparison shopper, this is a first-world problem that's near and dear to my heart. I think the reason microwaves (and appliances in general) suck is because comparison shopping is so hard. I wish I could get a list of all microwaves and filter by criteria such as: - Does the +30 seconds button start cooking immediately, or do you have to also press "start" afterwards? - Does it beep every 30 seconds aft…

> comparison shopping is so hard.

This indeed, there is no structured info anyware in even the software land where it's easier to get the info without buying/unboxing, so you can't rely on reviews that takes all those things into account and can't really do it yourself

Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by stevenwoo »

freitzkriesler2 wrote: post #102
rsync wrote: post #90

We have a Panasonic NE-1258R. It's a commercial kitchen microwave oven and is built like a tank. It requires a 20amp circuit and it has no turntable because it has two magnetrons . https://www.manualslib.com/products/Panasonic-Ne1258r-Commer... Recommended.

Smart on you for getting a commercial appliance. Residential grade appliances are quite frankly awful and really limit how well you can cook. My dream kitchen is ironically a professional one. One of my rants are stoves. They is not get as hot as professional stoves. To overcome this, I got a Blackstone griddle that also includes a gas range. I then replaced the propane regulator with some Chinese one that lets me ou…

Wow, is your oven capable of both proper wok and pizza cooking temperature?

Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by chongli »

dataflow wrote: post #155

Anyone have experience with Panasonic's "Cyclonic Inverter" microwaves? [1] Are they good? [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEILEEPYiEs

I will never go back to a conventional microwave oven. I run mine at 30-60% power pretty much any time I want to reheat food. Running at full power just creates tiny pockets of steam inside the cold food that then explode all over the interior. At lower power the food heats evenly and this never happens!

I used to use a lid on all the food I microwaved but I learned recently that microwaves and plastic are not a good mix. Low power with my inverter microwave has rescued the device as something useful for heating food!

By the way, the “inverter technology” isn’t really anything special. It’s a switched-mode power supply like you’ll find in millions of devices. The main difference is that this one can output the high voltages needed to drive the magnetron. It’s also a lot lighter in weight since it uses a much smaller transformer!

Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by dataflow »

chongli wrote: post #173
dataflow wrote: post #155

Anyone have experience with Panasonic's "Cyclonic Inverter" microwaves? [1] Are they good? [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEILEEPYiEs

I will never go back to a conventional microwave oven. I run mine at 30-60% power pretty much any time I want to reheat food. Running at full power just creates tiny pockets of steam inside the cold food that then explode all over the interior. At lower power the food heats evenly and this never happens! I used to use a lid on all the food I microwaved but I learned recently that microwaves and plastic are not a good…

Your comment seems to completely fail to answer my question? I know what an inverter is. I was specifically asking about Panasonic's Cyclonic Inverter technology, not about inverter technology in general.

Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by huytersd »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #154
gonzo41 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well at least you know your electrical system will be up for fast charging an EV. a 20A microwave is probably something you'd want to supervise pretty closely.

> a 20A microwave is probably something you'd want to supervise pretty closely Aren't standard microwaves 15A? Wouldn't a 15A -> 20A microwave just be 33% more powerful? Is that a dangerous jump? I know very little about electricity

If I’m not mistaken 15A is a standard residential wall outlet with 14 AWG wires. 20A isn’t that much more but since it’s not standard, I think it would require a higher gauge of wire such as 12 AWG and an updated breaker. I don’t know much about electricity either

Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by flanked-evergl »

huytersd wrote: post #170

What is this article? It doesn’t even mention why microwaves suck besides handwavyly saying they break in a year (not my experience).

It seems to be some excuse to tell people that capitalism is horrible:

> what can we learn from this? i don't know. capitalism will destroy everything it touches.

Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by speedgoose »

freshpots wrote: post #152
gonzo41 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well at least you know your electrical system will be up for fast charging an EV. a 20A microwave is probably something you'd want to supervise pretty closely.

"The oven must be on a SEPARATE, 20 Amp, 60 Hz-120V GROUNDED CIRCUIT." 20A @ 120V is only 2.4 kW max while you should only run it at 80% of the circuit/breaker load so 1.9 kW. Not exactly a fast charging EV circuit. It is not that much greater than a 15A circuit. It would take over an entire day to charge a typical EV, e.g Tesla LR Model 3, from 10-90%

Yes, a typical EV has a 11kW onboard charger. Some have up to 22kW but it’s relatively rare. And that’s for slow charging.

You can always charge slower but if you install a circuit for EV charging it’s nice to have a good one.

An old Renault Zoé equipped with a Continental power train and onboard charger had up to 43kW on AC, but the industry seem to prefer external DC chargers for faster charging. And that starts about 50kW. Though nowadays people would avoid such slow fast chargers and prefer the 100kW+.

Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by Baeocystin »

Waterluvian wrote: post #22
ForkMeOnTinder wrote: post #11

As a chronic comparison shopper, this is a first-world problem that's near and dear to my heart. I think the reason microwaves (and appliances in general) suck is because comparison shopping is so hard. I wish I could get a list of all microwaves and filter by criteria such as: - Does the +30 seconds button start cooking immediately, or do you have to also press "start" afterwards? - Does it beep every 30 seconds aft…

I just want a microwave with an analog dial for time and a switch for low, med, high. They can keep the computer.

Decades ago, my college microwave was an ~800 watt unit that had a large, analog dial, and an actual bell that dinged once (and only once) when it was done. That's it, no other settings. Zero displays, other than the pointer on the dial as it clicked down.

I still miss it.

Re: Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by chongli »

hotnfresh wrote: post #60
udia wrote: post #45

Instant Pot died primarily due to private equity greed, not because of Instant Pot reliability. In 2017, Cornell Capital bought the company for a total $500M of which $300M was financed by debt. Then 4 years later in 2021, it refinanced and added on debt, bringing the total debt to $535M. $245M was immediately paid out to shareholders as a dividend. Cornell Capital got paid back all the cash it invested in the compan…

What are the magic words these people use to get a bank to give them millions of dollars, let them walk off with it, then eat the loss?

What I don’t get is why we don’t consider it fraud to knowingly take a loan you have no intention of paying back.
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