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Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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Re: Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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Ex-Convoy employee here: if a company is shutting down, it obviously can't provide severance. It's not a matter of class or not.

If things are dire enough to close up shop now, they probably were dire enough to close up shop 2 months ago, and you can use the cash to give your employees some runway for finding new employment.

Entitlement is more prevalent than we think.

Re: Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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Startups are not established businesses. They are inherently risky ventures. If you want to be coddled and showered with benefits, go join a Fortune 500. Startups are not for you.

How dare you people don't want to be treated like a subhuman to make some early investors insanely rich?

What investor got rich off of Convoy?

Re: Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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>CEO said there'll be no severance or healthcare. Classy. Learning a lot about how certain people treat their employees during these last couple of admittedly insane years. Good for future reference, I guess - though not much solace now. I feel for the employees. Edit: Wow, more responses than I thought! I admit that the tone of my comment was too reactionary, but my opinion stands. I won't modify the original commen…

Startups are not established businesses. They are inherently risky ventures. If you want to be coddled and showered with benefits, go join a Fortune 500. Startups are not for you.

You could easily rewrite this comment to be about child labor in coal mines and textile mills. At the end of the day people are starting to expect certain basics from businesses considering places like In n Out are now offering benefits packages, and its about time we also enforce certain standards. If that raises the cost of doing business, so be it. I expect the business would be even more lucrative if you didn't have to pay your employees at all but that's not a good argument for exploiting the worker.

Re: Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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> I'd argue the business failing is a strong counterpoint to that assertion. That statement is pretty naive. There are plenty of things that can kill a startup without them having done anything specifically wrong at any level, let alone at the level of technical team.

While true, most of these startups that have already found product/market fit and go bust are operating off of unrealistically rosy projections. Did this company need to burn their entire round in a single year? Probably not. Could they have established themselves with lower operating expenses and still grown over time? Probably.

For the sake of argument, assume your contentions are true.

Now how do you draw a line from that to the probability that the technical team that has been let go is not high quality?

Re: Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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Trucking startup? Convoy sounds like an ordinary freight exchange to me, where truckers trade available loading space against transport orders. For each assigned order, the trucker pays a transaction fee to the platform. Plus there are additional services like factoring: get paid immediately by the platform instead of 30 days later by the shipper, platform usually keeps 5% commission for this.

Dozens of platforms like this exist in Europe, not sure why everybody makes a fuss about it.

Re: Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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Ex-Convoy employee here: if a company is shutting down, it obviously can't provide severance. It's not a matter of class or not.

It is interesting to see that employees of Convoy aren't saying bad things about the CEO. But people on the outside who don't know the CEO are saying bad things. Usually it is the reverse.

Stockholm syndrome is a thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Re: Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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post #72

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Ex-Convoy employee here: if a company is shutting down, it obviously can't provide severance. It's not a matter of class or not.

It is interesting to see that employees of Convoy aren't saying bad things about the CEO. But people on the outside who don't know the CEO are saying bad things. Usually it is the reverse.

do we know if the commenters claiming to be ex-employee, real ex-employees ?

Re: Trucking startup Convoy closes operations with no buyer

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You can buy healthcare on the free market. And you aren't being "let go" - the entire company is going under. If you are laid off and the company stays healthy, it makes sense to have some concessions. But if the entire business ceases to exist. I don't know why would you expect anything from it.

Wonder if it might make sense for the social safety net to include such a provision for workers of businesses that go under. If we're not going to have universal public coverage, might as well add provision for such an extenuating circumstance as that.

I think it makes perfect sense - in fact, divorcing healthcare entirely from employment.
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