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It's about time we had legislation (at least in the EU) that mandated an option to be able to use physical products in an offline mode. Features that require a connection to the Internet should only be an augmentation at most and not the core without which the product cannot work.
It's crazy to me that people keep willingly buying hardware that requires a service to work. You have a high up-front cost, yet you're at someone else's mercy. That's the worst of buying and renting combined. Obviously it isn't very profitable to keep supporting a product you've already sold at the moment, so something must be done to make it more attractive. At the very least there should be a support commitment whi…
I work in IoT and my single goal working in the industry is to do as much as I can (which will likely still be small) to make devices that are entirely separable from the cloud by enabling the use of different services and by being local-fist. Imagine if private organizations built their own road network and then sold you a car that can only be driven on that road. Once that company goes out of business, the road van…
The less you have in the cloud (generally) the better the economics for the manufacturer.
This device, like Stadia, was actually pretty great/amazing. Just incredible to see Google fuck these things up from a marketing/sales/strategy perspective. Amazing technology turned to (expensive) dust.
stadia with take-hands-off-controller before visually updating was amazing? it was one of the quickest plug pulls for a reason
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I'm sure the Jamboard service contains such top secret and critical code that it could never be open sourced in order for those devices to keep functioning with a proxy sever, no no no.
Googles backends are all proprietary solutions. So you’d need to open source a huge swath of google code. Much of which has assumptions of running in Google’s DCs.
And it's time wasted; the SWE working on the Jamboard may prefer to work on higher impact projects;
The PO as well.
For example, an hypothetical PO @ Google may have this possibility to launch a new product instead (e.g. deprecating the Pixel 7);
- New launch = promotion.
- Promotion = better salary.
- Better salary = happy wife.
- Happy wife = happy life.
Indeed, shutdowning Jamboard was the right solution from his perspective.
It's all about alignement of incentives.
This device, like Stadia, was actually pretty great/amazing. Just incredible to see Google fuck these things up from a marketing/sales/strategy perspective. Amazing technology turned to (expensive) dust.
stadia with take-hands-off-controller before visually updating was amazing? it was one of the quickest plug pulls for a reason
We have a few of these in our office. The experience is decent, but, man, I really miss chalkboards. I just don't find whiteboards, physical or virtual, as compelling. I actually make some use of the Jamboard app in meetings occasionally, but usually I'm at a desk with my feet up, using a tablet to draw while everyone else is remote. Not only has Jamboard never been a first-class citizen, no whiteboard is a first-cla…
You gotta be sure to get the super special chalk mathematicians are hoarding, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhNUjg9X4g8
I can predict the whining already, but 8 years is really not a short lifespan for a product. That's an honest effort at getting a market, which failed. That's life.
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Jamboard inherently required the cloud, so I'm not sure what your point is.
But google isn't retiring their cloud. They're just kicking the jamboards off it. The jamboards are computers capable of doing local compute. There's no hardware limitation preventing them from being a lot more useful. What we need is longer minimum warranties for electronics, with support and security fixes for 10+ years.
1. There are plenty of android based large displays with a touchscreen/camera/mic/speaker combo on the market (though I'm sure there weren't as many in 2016.) Why did Jamboard need to be an integrated solution instead of an app you could install on these displays? Maybe limit it to certain devices that you are sure it can run on.
2. I get that they are shutting the software part down, but you should be able to still use it as a dumb display for videoconferencing, right?
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You can run DOS 6.22 on brand new hardware, with an EFI bios? Or on a pc you pulled from a closet or a VM?
You can run DOS 6.22 on an emulator. On modern hardware. (Even the latest Mac + their custom processor.) It doesn't have to be the boot Operating System. But it still runs, and can be used usefully if I've built something on top of it. The point is, 'the cloud' for services + software tied to physical hardware is proving over and over to be a dead end, and effectively a mechanism to create ewaste. Google could publis…
That's because somebody else put in the effort to emulate the pieces requires for DOS. The vendor you bought DOS from is not building your VM software so that you can continue to use DOS.