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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#171

I'm sad that there is no PR2040 PRU on board.

The RP1 chip has some parts of the RP2040, though details are a little scarce. There are apparently some things you can do on RP1 when the main SoC is powered off, which leads me to believe outside of the main IO, you could do some interesting things with GPIO and/or CSI/DSI ports while the Pi is powered down (or in some sort of sleep-like state).

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#172

Does the Pi 4 have hardware video decoding in mainline Linux yet? I gave up on Raspberry stuff after buying a 4 and finding out that the mainline support was so much worse than expected.

It seems the answer is 'yes', especially for formats like h.264. Notably, they discontinued HW support in the RPI5 and chose to process it through software instead. This approach saves money since they don't need to pay for the intellectual property rights in the System on Chip (SoC). Additionally, the BCM2712 handles the video processing w/out breaking a sweat.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#173

TBH the thing I hate most about this category of SBC is the reliance on SD cards. They are both too unreliable to trust and so slow that they often bottleneck the SBC. Buying them is often a crap shoot too, I've purchased cards batches of cards from the supposed reputable manufacturers that were all over the board when benchmarked, and rarely did they hit the claimed speed spec. I would love if there was an alternati…

Did you read the blog post? :) "One of the most exciting additions to the Raspberry Pi 5 feature set is the single-lane PCI Express 2.0 interface. Intended to support fast peripherals, it is exposed on a 16-pin, 0.5mm pitch FPC connector on the left-hand side of the board. From early 2024, we will be offering a pair of mechanical adapter boards which convert between this connector and a subset of the M.2 standard, al…

> Did you read the blog post? :)

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#174

At the moment the product page is just a list of specs, but the blog post goes into much more detail, including describing the new RP1 I/O controller: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/ On pre-ordering: > We’re also giving every print subscriber to The MagPi and HackSpace magazines a single-use code, giving them priority access to Raspberry Pi 5 hardware. A subscription is US$43 and up, and…

times are tough, right?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#175
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your answer is more direct and uses fewer words. Can you help them fix their product page?

Probably not ;) The actual info I'd rely upon at this point: https://www.phoronix.com/benchmark/result/raspberry-pi-5-coo... pi5 with active cooler is about 1.2-1.5x faster than pi5 without cooler for most workloads that care than without. Pi5 with active cooler is about 2-2.5x faster than Pi4. So Pi5 without cooler is probably about 1.5x faster than pi4, depending upon workload. (And more than this for quick bursts…

And if you dont have a heatsink and fan of sorts just use alternativing fingers on the cpu, they can still absorb about 10-15 DegC off the cpu temp and thats overclocking a 3b in the 1.35Ghz range. Surprisingly robust. Sadly cant get it to idle below .6Ghz yet, that needs more work.

But it makes wonder how much more phone manufacturers could squeeze out of their phones, although Apple are definately overclocking the 15.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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post #34

I would love to see a more side by side comparison of specs. 2-3x times the speed pretty good though. The raspi 4 was just on the cusp of being usable as a main computer, I wonder how good this will be.

I've used one in person. I would say that it has crossed the threashold. I've only played w/ it using a microSD card. Whilst the microSD card slot now has support for high-speed SDR104 mode (roughly twice as fast as the Pi4), I can only imagine that speeds will increase when connecting SSDs via PCIe.

They like to use JS benchmarking to do this. I forgot which exact benchmark they usesed (sorry)! The RPI4 was benchmarking ~50, the PI5 was scoring about ~130. They were saying the RPI5 was scoring equivalent to a 2015 MacBook Air.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#177

Phoronix already has some benchmarks on it for those looking for more specific performance numbers: https://www.phoronix.com/review/raspberry-pi-5-benchmarks

I'm also posting some additional benchmarks to my GitHub sbc-reviews repo: https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews/issues/21

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#178
post #45

I'm tired of information being vague, under-specified, or only available under NDA (if you're lucky). I'm not stupid enough to hop on this ride again. Are there any fully open (in terms of schematics, firmware) RISCV rpi-"compatibles" out there? I'd be happy to pay triple the price of this thing for a power-efficient linux-capable sbc that is open.

Perhaps something from pine64?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#179
post #103

It's ARM with quad A76 cores. I was curious up until this announcement to see if they'd ever release a RISCV raspberry pi.

I asked Eben about that in an interview earlier this year, and the answer is "probably not too soon" — RISC-V has a lot of designs available, but most have been in the lower-end 'efficiency' class compared to cores like A76 (which the Pi 5 uses) and Neoverse, which are a lot faster.

But tech progresses on... never say never.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#180
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

It depends on what "need" means. I'm pretty sure you can take a 400W TDP Threadripper and run it without active cooling. It will throttle down to run at whatever speed (well, TDP) that doesn't fry it. The Raspberry Pi does the same thing. If your goal is to get the highest score on every benchmark, then yeah, you need active cooling. That has been true on every Raspberry Pi, I think. (I don't remember if the 1 needed…

Threadrippers use 50W+ at idle, so no, it won't just "throttle down"
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