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NSA, FBI, and CISA Release Cybersecurity Information Sheet on Deepfake Threats

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Re: NSA, FBI, and CISA Release Cybersecurity Information Sheet on Deepfake Threats

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Post by cthalupa »

superkuh wrote: post #93

There are no deepfake threats. Deepfakes is just the hype word for digitally altering photos/videos. In the past doing this well was restricted to governments, large corporations, large institutions. And they did it regularly. Now individual human people can do it themselves. That's good. That's not bad in any form or manner.

> That's not bad in any form or manner.

I really enjoy generative AI and think that we're better off with it being in the open than controlled by specific corporations.

I also think this is an absurd comment. People are already making deepfakes of classmates, coworkers, etc. and sharing them around. I'll ignore the ethics of generating them for your own personal entertainment, but I can't think of any argument that you could make that when they start getting shared that this isn't "bad in any manner" - obviously this can cause emotional distress and damage to someone.

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Post by autoexec »

DrThunder wrote: post #103
sixothree wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NPR seems to be one of the most reliable sources in America.

Reliably left wing? Yes. Reliably truthful? No.

NPR is high in factual accuracy (they very rarely lie) while being extremely selective in the stories they tell and the facts they omit to push their bias. They seem to be worse in that respect than they used to be.

I think that's still much better than a news source that just outright lies to your face whenever it's convenient. As long as you remember that the bias is there, you can at least trust what they say is the truth. When a news org tells a mix of truths and lies you don't even have a foundation of trustworthy fact to start from.

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Post by autoexec »

MadSudaca wrote: post #147
Capricorn2481 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so?

Fertility rates going down, divorce rates going up, and young people finding it harder to navigate dating and relationships. To the latter point, soon most new relationships will start through dating apps, and these have their share of problems too. These are some of the things that I think make finding companionship and building families harder.

on the other hands, dating apps have made it easier than ever to find compatible partners, and technology means that even if your parents divorce there's no problem keep in touch with either parent which applies just as well to extended family/friends. It's a lot easier to keep in touch with friends after graduation than it was when your only option was often "pen pals". It's not all doom and gloom. In many ways we're more connected than we've ever been and we're just in an awkward state where we're adapting to all the changes.

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Post by dang »

verisimi wrote: post #116
throwoutway wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> News outlets are simply government mouthpieces. It's dismissive to say 'simply'. In many cases yes they are, and in many cases they aren't. It's just as likely the journalist or agency is self-serving their own political or activist agenda

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

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Post by I_am_uncreative »

DrThunder wrote: post #103
sixothree wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NPR seems to be one of the most reliable sources in America.

Reliably left wing? Yes. Reliably truthful? No.

Truth does have a left-wing bias.

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Post by I_am_uncreative »

dylan604 wrote: post #97
patwolf wrote: post #64

I'm old enough to remember back in 2005 when terrorist in Iraq claimed to be holding a US soldier hostage, and it turned out the whole thing was staged using photos of a doll: Original story: https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/02/world/africa/rebels-say-t... Confirmation of hoax: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna6894934 It's pretty easy to see that the photo is a hoax, but many news outlets didn't notice and ran the story…

>I'm old enough to remember back in 2005 How to make someone feel old. All the way back to 2005, eh?

Someone born in 2005 is a freshman in college now.

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Post by pokstad »

fasterik wrote: post #148
pokstad wrote: post #109

We got lazy with the internet age. We’re going to have to go back to basic principles again. That means if you didn’t see it with your own eyes, it’s not real. If someone didn’t tell you in person, then they didn’t tell you. Maybe this won’t be a bad thing after all.

This is bad epistemology. I can't possibly verify all of the facts of physics, chemistry, biology, history, economics, medicine, law, politics, etc. through my own senses and through people that I know personally. It would be impossible to have any knowledge of the world that way. The real solution is to carefully select a variety of experts who you trust as sources of information, and rely on the consensus of those…

This is how the world worked before the internet. Your high school science teacher would directly teach you things they also learned in a lab in college.

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Post by Super_Jambo »

hhmc wrote: post #80
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the problem with for-profit news outlets, they can't afford not to run the story that others are. State-run news outlets is also not good.

What's the solution? A powerful enough regulatory framework to fine (or otherwise punish) proven misinformation? Even then it's probably hard to prove that insufficient checking was performed at publication time

Ban advertising supported information sources. If people want information they need to pay for it in order that the information serves them not the people with a budget for manipulation.

You could I suppose allow adverts where the information is strictly for entertainment, but given that was Fox News defence... I think it probably wouldn't work.

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Post by ejb999 »

EGG_CREAM wrote: post #87
ejb999 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>It's pretty easy to see that the photo is a hoax, but many news outlets didn't notice and ran the story anyway. More likely: many news outlets didn't CARE and ran the story anyway.

That is not really more likely. Most news outlets don't actually want to have a horrible reputation.

News operations live and die by eyeballs and clicks - they will say or report anything if it will give them more traffic, or if it appeals to their audience; don't kid yourself, getting you to click on a news story - true or not - IS the goal.
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