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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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nunobrito wrote: post #36
suyash wrote: post #29

This announcement seem to have killed so many startups that were trying to do multi-modal on top of ChatGPT. The way it's progressing with solving use cases with images and voice, not too far when it might be the 'one app to rule them all'. I can already see "Alexa/Siri/Google Home" replacement, "Google Image Search" replacement, ed-tech startups that were solving problems with AI using by taking a photo are also doo…

It already replaced search engines. So much easier to write the question and explore the answers until it is solved.

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by ethanbond »

apexalpha wrote: post #66
palata wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The only downside is that it now make me feel bad that I'm not doing anything with it yet. If that's the only downside that you see... I guess enhanced phishing/impersonation and all the blackhat stuff that come with it don't count. I for one already miss the time where companies had support teams made of actual people.

I work as a ethical hacker, so I'm well aware of the phishing and impersonation possibilities. But the net positive is so, so much bigger for society that I'm sure we'll figure it out. And yes, in 20 years you can tell your kids that 'back in my day' support consisted of real people. But truthfully, as someone who worked on a ISP helpdesk it's much better for society if these people move on to more productive areas.

I don’t think we know how these net out. AFAICT the negative use cases are a lot more real than the positive ones.

People like to just suppose that these will help discover drugs and design buildings and what not, but what we actually know they’re capable of doing is littering our information environment at massive scale.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by trey-jones »

joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

First of all, I understand what you're saying. Communication is important. I just think it's funny to ever talk about "lack of communication". All I want is for businesses to stop communicating with me. Even better if I don't have to ask (unsubscribe).

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by ilaksh »

Closi wrote: post #150
joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

They have gone from being a niche research company to being (probably) the fastest growing start-up in history. I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally.

Maybe there is a state somewhere between "total chaos and carnage" and "emails users when new features are enabled for their account".

Such as "decided it wasn't an operational priority to email users when features were enabled for them".

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

bamboozled wrote: post #110
skepticATX wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What LLMs have made me realize more than anything is that we just don't care that much the information we receive being completely factual. I have tried to use it many times to learn a topic, and my experience has been that it is either frustratingly vague or incorrect. It's not a tool that I can completely add to my workflow until it is reliable, but I seem to be the odd one out.

> What LLMs have made me realize more than anything is that we just don't care that much the information we receive being completely factual. I find this highly concerning but I feel similar. Even "smart people" I work with seem to have gulped down the LLM cool aid because it's convenient and it's "cool". Sometimes I honestly think: "just surrender to it all, believe in all the machine tells you unquestionably, forge…

I just verify the information I need. I find it useful as a sort of search engine for solutions. Like, how could I use generators as hierarchical state machines? Are there other approaches that would work? What are some issues with these solutions? Etc. By the end I have enough information to begin searching the web for comparisons, other solutions, and so on.

The benefit is that I got a quick look at various solutions and quickly satisfied a curiosity, and decided if I’m interested in the concept or not. Without AI, I might just leave the idea alone or spend too much time figuring it out. Or perhaps never quite figure out the terms of what I’m trying to discover, as it’s good at connecting dots when you have an idea with some missing pieces.

I wouldn’t use it for a conversation about things as others are describing. I need a way to verify its output at any time. I find that idea bizarre. Just chatting with a hallucinating machine. Yet I still find it useful as a sort of “idea machine”.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by bamboozled »

DrScientist wrote: post #42
jojobas wrote: post #17

For better or worse, it still can't tell truth from fiction or, better yet, bullshit.

So almost human then :-)

I don't pay $20 a month for humans to talk shit to me though. The fact that they do this is a bug not a feature. I'm not going to pay for bullshit which I mostly try avoid?

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by elicksaur »

mmahemoff wrote: post #118
ChatGTP wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still don't understand how you can talk to something that doesn't provide factual information and just take it at face value? The other day I asked it about the place I live and it made up nonsense, I was trying to get it to help me with an essay and it was just wrong, it was telling me things about this region that weren't real. Do we just drive through a town, ask for a made up history about it and just be satisf…

I'm curious if you're using GPT-4 ($)? I find a lot of the criticisms about hallucination come from users who aren't, and my experience with GPT-4 is it's far less likely to make stuff up. Does it know all the answers, certainly not, but it's self-aware enough to say sorry I don't know instead of making a wild guess.

Why would anyone pay for something if the free trial doesn’t work? “Hey, you know how we gave you a product that doesn’t quit work as you expect and is super frustrating? Just pay us money, and we’ll give you the same product, but it just works. Just trust us!”

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by psbp »

TOMDM wrote: post #100

Okay the bike example is cute and impressive, but the human interaction seems to be obfuscating the potentially bigger application. With a few tweaks this is a general purpose solver for robotics planning. There are still a few hard problems between this and a working solution, but it is one of hard problems solved. Will we be seeing general purpose robots performing simple labor powered by chatgpt within the next ha…

Google demoed this a few months ago

https://www.deepmind.com/blog/rt-2-new-model-translates-visi...

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