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Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. That said, as someone who is bipolar, has bipolar friends and has used cannabis for a significant portion of my half-century on Earth, cannabis usage is proportional to mood instability in myself and my friends. I have taken extensive breaks and noticed I am much more mentally resilient and less emotionally labile whe…

Anecdotal as well, but I’ve found the same to be true, through hard fought experience.

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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I just quit weed after getting addicted for almost 2 years. There is a large community of people who are trying to quit: /r/leaves The article is nothing new to me. Read a few posts from the subreddit and you'd see a pattern. Three weeks ago, I was pro-weed recreation legalization. Today, I'm strongly anti recreation use. Edit: I'm not against decriminalization of weed. I'm highly against pro-recreational use. I'm ag…

> Three weeks ago, I was pro-weed recreation legalization. Today, I'm strongly anti recreation use. The other posters here have a point. If one is vocal against cannabis while mostly giving alcohol a pass - it makes it harder to respect warnings of harm. After 5 generations of lying drug war PR and ridiculous propaganda, this deeply incredulous debate needs a lot to be worth considering.

Just because alcohol is bad for you, doesn't mean weed is good for you.

I believe it's easier to get addicted to weed than alcohol. I think time will prove me right.

Think of it this way. Let's say there are 100 people in a society. Without weed, 5 are addicted to alcohol. With weed, 20 are addicted to weed and 3 are addicted to alcohol. Yes, there will be fewer alcohol addicts, but we added 20 weed addicts. Is this better for society? I don't believe so.

You're welcomed to disagree.

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think people should be put in jail for cannabis. However, we shouldn't be devoting our tier 1 retail space or having startups with massive advertising budgets pushing it. It should be sold as a generic drug by pharmacies that make most of their business from other drugs not dispensary entrepreneurs creating massive retail brands like alcohol.

I feel like you’re being quite morally prescriptive and advocating legislation on that basis. Is your life so grand or so poor that you cannot empathize with those who’d seek a high from something rather benign?

It's anything but benign.

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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I just quit weed after getting addicted for almost 2 years. There is a large community of people who are trying to quit: /r/leaves The article is nothing new to me. Read a few posts from the subreddit and you'd see a pattern. Three weeks ago, I was pro-weed recreation legalization. Today, I'm strongly anti recreation use. Edit: I'm not against decriminalization of weed. I'm highly against pro-recreational use. I'm ag…

These measures will only increase the black market for weed.

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

#176

I don’t know what I read, but someone said weed before all of the legalization in the last ten years was 5% THC. The stuff being sold in dispensaries now is 80-95% THC. Weed went commercial and so did the potency. Corporate America got a hold of the industry for pure profits.

I downvoted this because you’re making a interesting claim but it’s frankly irresponsible to not even try to source it.

there was some discussion about this last week. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37430221

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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The only way I can deal with my sociopathic coworkers is through cannabis use, so I’ll roll the dice. Edit: downvote me daddy

You’ve probably considered this, but habitual use actually makes it harder to cope.

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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the prohibition of cannabis in the US had deeply racist origins. If this prohibition returns it will be for similarly racist purposes.

The first part is true (as far as I know from the other comments here; I do not know the history of United States much and do not live in United States, but I will assume it is true and I will believe you), but the second part is not necessarily true (we cannot figure it out ahead of time; it is possible to be true though but also possibly not).

There are other reason to be banned, e.g. to avoid second hand smoke (that is what I want to avoid, and if it can somehow be permitted in a way that restricts their use to their own personal use and not affecting the air outside for all other people/animal/trees/etc then they should do that somehow, I think).

I live in Canada and the marijuana being permitted does have the problem like I mention above, like cigarette smoking also did, so it should be considered.

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Today, I'm strongly anti Haha like all reformed addicts of anything. I'm strongly anti cigarettes.

Well, I wouldn't have been strongly anti recreational use if I didn't go through what I did. Extremely high THC products coupled with professional marketing agencies? Yikes. We're going to have a weed epidemic soon. Maybe it's a silent epidemic now.

If we have a weed epidemic then we certainly have an alcohol epidemic too, as well as an obesity epidemic, as well as a traffic accident epidemic, and so on.

Making everything that can be harmful to some subset of the population illegal is not the way to deal with these issues. It's reductio ad absurdum into a totalitarian nanny state that literally controls your diet and makes you drive 25 mph on the highway.

It's not the government's job to make everything that could possibly hurt you if you overdo it unavailable to you.

I agree with you that cannabis can be very harmful to some people, and that the risks are often understated. But if you want to help people who are susceptible in this way, the solution is to help them realize they have a problem, develop self-discipline, and understand that while cannabis may be harmless to many people, for them it is not, and what works for many others (occasional moderate use) won't work for them.

In short, people with this issue should take responsibility, join a 12 step program, and fix the problem in themselves rather than expecting all of society to adapt itself to not trigger their addiction. That you can't use it in moderation doesn't mean no one can, just like there are probably many things you can do in moderation that other people aren't able to.

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

#180

Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. That said, as someone who is bipolar, has bipolar friends and has used cannabis for a significant portion of my half-century on Earth, cannabis usage is proportional to mood instability in myself and my friends. I have taken extensive breaks and noticed I am much more mentally resilient and less emotionally labile whe…

i appreciate you sharing this. ofc, it's only one anecdotal piece of evidence, but i have been a bit torn about my use of cannabis at times. i sometimes feel it maybe helps, but i wonder if that's just the short term side effects that seem to calm me, and the long term effects (even if only using once a month) make my emotions more unstable...

Bipolar, also a heavy cannabis user.

Both can be true, weed can help with mood swings by numbing you out or shifting your mental state somewhere else. Weed can also be harmful because it numbs you, but harmful in a latent and subtle sort of way.

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