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wouldnt hold your breathe.. they've been claiming solid state has been around the corner since like 2010
Still better than the kind of promises you'd get from Elon Musk, costing you 10K to get a FSD system to drive you into a wall. I like the fact that they show their intent without making you pay for it
Mark Twain
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That quote is not in that article, which is from 2017. Did you mean to link to something else?
That article is from 2009 about Toyota announcing a 10x lithium ion wonder-battery due in ~2015. That didn't happen. Now, in 2023, Toyota promises a solid-state wonder-battery soon (tm). Since wonder-battery announcements from Toyota have proven unreliable before we shouldn't hold our breath for today's wonder-battery announcement from Toyota.
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That quote is not in that article, which is from 2017. Did you mean to link to something else?
That article is from 2009 about Toyota announcing a 10x lithium ion wonder-battery due in ~2015. That didn't happen. Now, in 2023, Toyota promises a solid-state wonder-battery soon (tm). Since wonder-battery announcements from Toyota have proven unreliable before we shouldn't hold our breath for today's wonder-battery announcement from Toyota.
I won't hold my breath https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota-develops-more-efficient... >If the Japanese automaker does decide to put it into a production car, don't expect it to arrive on the scene until sometime after 2015.
>reportedly uses single crystals of lithium cobalt oxide
Would anyone like to guess why this one didn't catch on?
Anyway, practically all modern solid-state batteries are based on a phosphorus sulfide electrolyte system (P2S5, but also related PxSy phases), which was tested in batteries as early as 1988 by Eveready:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01672...
The material was discovered in France in around 1980:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/016727...
So this is not just a one-off technology; the challenge is mostly efficient production.
I hope they are successful on this. Japanese carmakers are really good and well-disciplined on building it with quality and also cheaply, I'm really excited about what they'll bring. I've always enjoyed Toyotas, I have one. Toyotas are always cheaper than the alternative and extremely reliable.
I won't hold my breath https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota-develops-more-efficient... >If the Japanese automaker does decide to put it into a production car, don't expect it to arrive on the scene until sometime after 2015.
He has no background in car manufacturing, battery research etc or unique insight into Toyota's roadmap. With all due respect to him I don't think his opinion is worth all that much.
I hope they are successful on this. Japanese carmakers are really good and well-disciplined on building it with quality and also cheaply, I'm really excited about what they'll bring. I've always enjoyed Toyotas, I have one. Toyotas are always cheaper than the alternative and extremely reliable.
My understanding is that some of the Toyota cars also use Lexus motors under the hood. It might say Toyota, but it's the same motor on a Lexus.
I hope they are successful on this. Japanese carmakers are really good and well-disciplined on building it with quality and also cheaply, I'm really excited about what they'll bring. I've always enjoyed Toyotas, I have one. Toyotas are always cheaper than the alternative and extremely reliable.
My understanding is that some of the Toyota cars also use Lexus motors under the hood. It might say Toyota, but it's the same motor on a Lexus.
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My understanding is that some of the Toyota cars also use Lexus motors under the hood. It might say Toyota, but it's the same motor on a Lexus.
Well yeah, Lexus are Toyotas? It’s the brand name Toyota uses for their luxury cars
I hope they are successful on this. Japanese carmakers are really good and well-disciplined on building it with quality and also cheaply, I'm really excited about what they'll bring. I've always enjoyed Toyotas, I have one. Toyotas are always cheaper than the alternative and extremely reliable.
My understanding is that some of the Toyota cars also use Lexus motors under the hood. It might say Toyota, but it's the same motor on a Lexus.