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Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

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Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#171

This is politics in a nutshell. People keep voting for the same politicians so they keep the same problems. Power infrastructure is poor? Keep voting for the same people that made it that way. Lots of violent crime in your city? Keep voting for the people that release criminals back into society immediately. Politics is so binary and broken in this country that we are just making fixable issues into permanent hardshi…

Yes but the "both sides" argument is a fallacy.

I live in a red state whose natural environment has been devastated by Republican policies for over a century. What people see here today is a remnant of primordial old-growth wilderness. But they think it's natural and how it's always been. Similarly to the way that austerity drives struggle and suffering for working class families, but they continue voting conservative against their own self-interest. The worse it gets, the more they vote Republican. Like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown right as he is about to kick it.

Democrats have been pushing for sustainability and a national rollout of renewable energy since at least the 1960s, definitely before the Earth First! movement of the 1980s, and probably all the way back to the strengthening of national parks by Teddy Roosevelt during the Progressive Era around 1900. It's odd to imagine a Republican as an environmentalist today, but there used to be many. That helps us to understand how the parties flipped due to stuff like Nixon's Southern Strategy.

We can blame Democrats for urban sprawl, high state sales tax, red tape/overregulation, basic hypocrisy in not living sustainably at an individual level and subscribing to neoliberalism like Republicans. But the economic and environmental problems we face today are mostly a result of decades of anti-sustainability legislation and subsidies for fossil fuel companies by Republicans. To say otherwise is revisionist history and not the academic view IMHO.

With the 100 year storms hitting the south every 2-10 years now, the environmental bill is coming due. It's all but certain that some number of southern states will flip blue. It will be interesting to see if that improves their infrastructure, or if it's too late.

But I do agree with you about the dysfunction. When the Boomers pass, I wonder if the parties will flip again and introduce a whole new set of wedge issues to argue about incessantly as the world burns.

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#172
post #14

the more I read about ERCOT, the texas energy council, the more im convinced its a grift that wasnt designed to survive the test of climate change. ERCOT reform was announced by Governor Abbott in 2021, but that same reform was also penned in a nearly 400 page report that was completely ignored during ERCOT's 2011 failure. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdog/2021/03/26/in-20-ye...

It seems very much like a Texan good 'ol boys club. At least, that's my best attempt at understanding the root causes of the dysfunction here?

I think the root cause may be a retail market for something that should be a public utility?

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#173
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand your point, but if I let the $OTHER party get control, they will work against my beliefs on Abortion and Guns, which are the only 2 beliefs that the parties have together taught me matters...

You are 100% correct. Thats what we are missing. Additional parties that perhaps hold party A's thoughts on Abortion and Guns but maybe share party B's thoughts on immigration or health care or whatever. The country really needs choice. I'm a swing voter, I vote both R and D. To the best of my knowledge I have never met another one in real life. I know they do exist though. I find myself voting one party at the state…

Ranked choice voting seems like the only plausible way to introduce nuance into the ballots...

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#174

This is politics in a nutshell. People keep voting for the same politicians so they keep the same problems. Power infrastructure is poor? Keep voting for the same people that made it that way. Lots of violent crime in your city? Keep voting for the people that release criminals back into society immediately. Politics is so binary and broken in this country that we are just making fixable issues into permanent hardshi…

Yes but the "both sides" argument is a fallacy. I live in a red state whose natural environment has been devastated by Republican policies for over a century. What people see here today is a remnant of primordial old-growth wilderness. But they think it's natural and how it's always been. Similarly to the way that austerity drives struggle and suffering for working class families, but they continue voting conservativ…

That's exactly my point though. It's only a fallacy because of your particular view on certain topics. For some people it's guns and abortion, for you it's the environment.

Imagine the world from the point of view of some one that truly believes that abortion is the murder of little children. I really mean it, just for 30 seconds.

We all have these core issues that we hold most dear and assume others must as well. Many people care far more about social issues than the environment or taxation or whatever their 'it' is.

Having only 2 parties forces us to choose the party that best represents our 'it' but to also vote for the myriad of other policies we may disagree with. We very much dislike the other party though because they have the opposite stance on our 'it'.

"It's all but certain that some number of southern states will flip blue" Florida is redder than ever. I encourage you to pause and reflect on the why of that. It's very much not because the voters are stupid, they have other 'its' that are important to them.

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#175
post #27

Wait, so instead of charging their crypto mining customers more, they are paying them not to mine? WTF? You have to love their "free market" energy grid /s

If you look at it like "I contracted to be able to buy 1 GW from you" and now you're paying me to buy that contract back, it makes a bit more sense.

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#176
post #8

> Some of these tactics have proven controversial with consumers. One program that pays big power users like cryptocurrency operations millions to conserve, has come under particular scrutiny, as Texans have been asked to conserve voluntarily for months. This is... amazing. Not in a good way.

is this what they mean by privatizing profits and socializing losses

It’s a cute saying, but that really doesn’t make sense in this situation. How is society taking a loss?

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#177
post #14

the more I read about ERCOT, the texas energy council, the more im convinced its a grift that wasnt designed to survive the test of climate change. ERCOT reform was announced by Governor Abbott in 2021, but that same reform was also penned in a nearly 400 page report that was completely ignored during ERCOT's 2011 failure. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdog/2021/03/26/in-20-ye...

It seems very much like a Texan good 'ol boys club. At least, that's my best attempt at understanding the root causes of the dysfunction here?

Sounds very similar to Californians PGE. It’s run like a dumpster fire ($0.30/kWh which is ridiculous) and the system is falling apart.

The best part is the governor complains yet PGE can’t restock toilet paper without CPUC approval and guess who sits on CPUC? The governors appointees.

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so weird because I thought the whole point of ERCOT was to be a market and use market forces to solve everything. So why are they paying bitcoin miners to turn off, rather than just charging them market rates at all times and letting them decide for themselves? I feel like I'm missing something here.

The gap between actual unfettered market forces and what gets implemented in American capitalism is where the grift happens. IE, ostensibly set up a free market to satisfy the ideologues but make sure there are carveout deals so cronyism has room to hand out favors.

Don't forget the guy in 2021 who told investors he will keep the prices as high as possible for as long as possible during that winter storm.

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#179
post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems very much like a Texan good 'ol boys club. At least, that's my best attempt at understanding the root causes of the dysfunction here?

Sounds very similar to Californians PGE. It’s run like a dumpster fire ($0.30/kWh which is ridiculous) and the system is falling apart. The best part is the governor complains yet PGE can’t restock toilet paper without CPUC approval and guess who sits on CPUC? The governors appointees.

ERCOT is more functionally analogous to CalISO than PG&E.

Re: Texas just got closer to blackouts than it has since 2021. What happened?

#180
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a pretty misleading presentation, because of the cherry-picked dates and conflating (apparently) capacity-related outages with public safety shutoffs, and for not weighting by population impact. California has not had any capacity-related problems in the past 2 years, mostly due to the fact that they now have 5.5GW of battery backup capacity that covers the critical period at dusk, when solar generation is he…

> they now have 5.5GW of battery backup capacity that covers the critical period at dusk, when solar generation is headed for zero, during late summer where the days are getting shorter but it is still hot Am I supposed to interpret "covers critical period at dusk..." as the "hours" part of 5.5GW? Because I'm having trouble grokking what is the actual battery backup capacity described here... Does CA have battery cap…

Every grid-scale battery in CA has 4 hours of energy capacity at its rated power, so 22GW-h at present.
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