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Also, in slack an emoji response doesn't need to be cleared (so it doesn't count toward a notification count). That is what got me on board.
And if you send a message that's only + , slack will use it as a reaction on the immediately preceding message
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I use emoticons when texting (because I'm a graybeard), but my phone translates them into emojis before sending. So I've just taken to calling them all emojis.
My beard might be even greyer because I still think of them as 'smileys' :)
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People ending their sentences in ellipses are the true passive aggressive ones... Single period is normal, surely.
I HATE ellipses and I really don't even understand the purpose. What are they supposed to signify? I know two people that use them constantly and it makes me feel like I said something dumb; like there is some response that is so obvious that I shouldn't have needed to say what I said. I know that isn't their intention, but that's just what my brain makes of the those three trailing periods... > Single period is norm…
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> Emoji is a Japanese word, which is the biggest hint they didn't come from Microsoft. (And yes, its a specific subset of Unicode characters, though that proper use is getting diluted by people using it to refer to any and every inline pictograph in text, even non-Unicode ones, Emoji as originally created/used in Japan were not Unicode, Unicode emoji only came many years later, so referring to non-unicode emoji as em…
But the MSN Messenger emoticons from Microsoft were not those Japanese emoji. That term was only popularized with the iPhone.
> It turns out that a world freshly speckled with [emoji smile] is not really such a changed world after all. I've recently discovered there is a generational gap in smiley usage :) If you are younger, my ":)" above can be taken more as a condescending smirk that puts down the reader. If you are older, it is just a smile and signifies that I'm, well, what a smile usually means: I'm being friendly, happy, non-threaten…
Actually even on IRC in the 90's, sometimes :) was sarcastic, really depended on context anyways. 5% chance of sarcasm. Internet is a highly sarcastic world so it's not a surprise that people eventually perceive it to be more sarcastic than it should be I suppose. You can just add a - to make it unambiguous. :-)
They make sense as reactions but are absolutely awful in prose. Emoji spam (specially rocket) is the litmus test for “people i dont want to work with”
(I also judge anyone who stresses the second syllable of 'emoji', which is basically everyone.)
I perpetually react poorly to the wink icon, at least, as it appears on Apple devices.
I get the sense people intend it to mean "droll wink" which is inclusive and often characteristic of good humored positive "play."
For me the icon parses as a more confrontational eyebrow raise, sardonic shading into sarcastic, with a whiff of the scornful, contemptuous, or hostile.
It's not a big deal, but it's been years and I still have to hand-hold myself past the intuitive reaction by reminding myself that's almost never how it was meant.
I wish you could swap out the glyphs.
Emojis are used mostly in 2 ways: punctuating a sentence so that it’s tone is less ambiguous. A shortcut for an emotional state that is not dissimilar to writing “haha” “ew” or “meh”. As a IRC-chatting teenager in the mid-90s, I am somewhat an expert in emoticons and can’t possibly imagine a world where emojis didn't exist. But I m surprised no one mentions the “!” or other stylistic tools like all caps. These are “c…
An article on this topic I like: Are Your Texts Passive-Aggressive? The Answer May Lie In Your Punctuation >"And we found consistently through many experiments that 'Yup' with a period resulted in responses that were more negative. So people thought 'Yup' with a period was less friendly, less sincere, and so on." >"I actually really don't like getting text messages that end in periods because it always feels so harsh…
What level of neuroticism is this?
¨In other words, enough to send a chill down anyone's spine.¨
I say again, what level of neuroticism is this? If folks are reading that much into a standard element of grammar, then maybe the grammar isn't the problem.
¨Klin said the entire debate demonstrates that language is constantly changing — and that's OK.¨
Language exists to communicate ideas; if a change makes things harder to communicate, it's a bad change. Change isn't inherently good.
If hundreds of millions of people are using grammar one way (and have been for a long time), and some young adults come along and _misread_ that grammar, the worse course is to tell the 100s of millions to change their behavior.
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MSN messenger had a ton of emojis and at the time (around 2000), in my experience, they were used on messenger a lot more than on AIM or ICQ. This is, of course, in the west. As far as Unicode, the impetus for inclusion, while petitioned by Google, was at least officially due to enabling compatibility with Japanese phones where emoji were also quite popular.
Those were emoticons, they developed separately from the Japanese emoji that we use today. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37235639
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Those were emoticons, they developed separately from the Japanese emoji that we use today. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37235639
They were a fixed set of pictures that you could put inline with the text in a message; despite the differing origin, I don't see the distinction.
1) The term ‘emoji’ came along with the Japanese emoji on the iPhone. Nobody at the time called MSN/forum emoticons ‘emoji’, so it’s a neologism to say that MSN had emoji.
2) Emoji are a fixed, standardized set that works the same way across the entire OS. 2000s emoticons were implemented separately on each app and website, with differing support and designs everywhere.
Some contemporary apps (like Slack and Discord) choose to override the system emoji style and provide their own shortcodes though, so I guess they are like a hybrid of emoji and traditional emoticons.