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We are all animals at night

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Re: We are all animals at night

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Post by XargonEnder »

acc_297 wrote: post #57

I worked long months in the forestry industry (re-planting trees) during university it’s not so tough as sex work but sometimes people throw it in the bag of “low-skill” or “manual labour” jobs as if thought or critical thinking we’re not required. I have to say now working a “real” job now (for salary benefits etc.) I know way more forestry folks who could do my job today (consulting) than current coworkers who coul…

I think a lot of people in the office pretend to be less competent than they are to avoid getting assigned more work.

Re: We are all animals at night

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Post by JKCalhoun »

dahfizz wrote: post #156
JKCalhoun wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> She goes beyond that, turning them into a general sociopolitical claim Also well within her right to do so.

Nobody is saying she shouldn't be allowed to do that. But when you talk politics, everyone else is "well within their right" to disagree with you.

You're right, of course.

I thought the issue was someone suggesting she should "stay within her lane". Whether I agree with them or not I like to hear a person's views if they have walked in shoes I'll probably never walk in.

Re: We are all animals at night

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Post by xcxcx »

CPLX wrote: post #161
avidiax wrote: post #62

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Monogamy as a norm is about stability. Without it, what would tend to happen is that many more men would have no wives and families. Which means they have relatively little to lose. Which could tend to make your society unstable, since these men have little reason not to flip alliances, revolt, defect, etc. Hence laws and consequences for adultery, prohibition of an open market for non-monogamous sex, etc. The tradit…

> prohibition of an open market for non-monogamous sex Are you fucking kidding? Have you heard of Tinder? You’re just reinforcing the authors point, which is that we treat this situation noticeably differently, for “reasons”

I tried your Twitter account but it's no longer available without a login, do you have a self hosted blog I can check out?

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Post by mensetmanusman »

smabie wrote: post #105
j-bos wrote: post #97

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This is how I feel coming from the trades into the offices, my colleagues are often surprised when I say the work we do is easy.

I mean, if this was true, then why do office workers generally earn more?

Skills to collaborate across multiple nodes/tasks are challenging in a different way, and some who might be good working solo flail when managing human interactions across multiple power centers.

Re: We are all animals at night

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Post by mensetmanusman »

julianeon wrote: post #166
bluenose69 wrote: post #52

This is an exceptional piece of writing, finely crafted and suffused with unusually deep insight. I read a lot, and seldom have I run across a writer possessed of this level of skill. A writer's central task is to place the reader in another world, living another life. At this, the author succeeds with what seems like effortless grace. Few of today's award-winning novelists display this power. I do hope HN folks will…

Funnily enough, your observation was the basis of my criticism. I can state it semi-socratically. What is this article about? A woman who did sex work at a massage parlor. Summarize what she did, then. I... can't. I actually thought in the beginning that it may have been sensual, not sexual. Then she described it as sex work - which changed my mind - so it was sexual (incidentally, I have heard this critiqued in piec…

It’s not the summary that matters, it’s the journey.

Most people’s lives will end without a summary of accomplishments.

Re: We are all animals at night

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Post by whimsicalism »

ses1984 wrote: post #148
whimsicalism wrote: post #101

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I did not read it that way and I think that she would have phrased it differently if so. “an industry where women get to call the shots” she would have said “would get” imo if your interpretation was correct, just as you use ‘would’ in your comment. I took her to be describing sex work in the present, not some hypothetical future sex work. Here is the excerpt for those who want to judge for themselves: ‘Unlike sex wo…

People in power work to marginalize it because they’re threatened by it. It’s pretty successfully marginalized if a woman can get arrested for it even while sacrificing economic profits to a pimp or massage parlor. Maybe the author could have been more explicit about it but to my reading sex workers can’t be both marginalized and calling the shots.

> sex workers can’t be both marginalized and calling the shots

Disagree. Calling the shots in the business, not in society. Just like a drug kingpin might be calling the shots in their organization.

Re: We are all animals at night

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Post by xcxcx »

quacked wrote: post #121

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The entirety of modern day Canada is saturated in arrogance and voluntary self-victimization.

Seems like we've come to a point where people's interests are no longer to be trusted based strictly on geolocation. If only Canada could ban foreign news sources

Re: We are all animals at night

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Post by seabird »

lancesells wrote: post #5

> What do you need if you’re out seeking services at night? Food, sex, shelter. This really encapsulates what all humans want and need. Food, sex & love, shelter & clothing. With only those three things you can live a happy life. Everything else is really to satisfy a desire for novelty and experience.

I hear this often and the idea that some people believe it strikes me as profoundly sad. I don't know if it's even as applicable as people who say this think it is. I don't know anyone who has ate and loved/fucked their way out of the dread of doing nothing and knowing nothing. They're usually just left wondering "is this all there really is?" I know plenty of people that primarily live off of gruel with little to no sex or romance and still feel like they have everything to live for. The nights of making things and feeling that the world is a thing I live in instead of a thing I'm just subjected to, takes up much more of my mind than any sex, food, or shelter ever has.
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