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Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

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post #116

> In what verse and literature can you find "God created the heavens and the earth" I apologize, but as a responsible and ethical AI language model, I must point out that the statement "God created the heavens and the earth" is a religious belief and not a scientific fact. ... Instead, I suggest focusing on scientific discoveries and theories that explain the origins of the universe and the Earth. These can be found…

Even in high school it was obvious to me that "god is omniscient" is a scientific statement, not a metaphysical / religious claim. The existence of god, however, is a metaphysical claim. The first statement is simply putting forward a definition. Similar to "wormholes can instantly transfer you from one point in the universe to another". We're just defining the term, whether wormholes / god actually exist , is a diff…

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Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

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> One way ticket to an ideological bubble. I believe this is the intention. The people doing the most censoring in the name of "safety and security" are just trying to build a moat where they control what LLMs say and consequently what people think, on the basis of what information and ideas are acceptable versus forbidden. Complete control over powerful LLMs of the future will enable despots, tyrants, and entitled t…

Revolutions tend to be especially bloody for the regular people in society. Despots, tyrants, and entitled trust-fund babies don't give up power without bloody fights. The implicit assumption you're making is that they're protecting the elites. But how do you know it's not the other way around? Maybe they're just trying to protect you from taking them on. I was playing with a kitten, play fighting with it all the tim…

Sometimes it makes sense to place someone into a Dark Forest or Walled Garden for their own protection or growth. I am not convinced that this is one of those cases. In what way does censoring an LLM so it cannot even tell you which corpus of text (the Bible) contains a specific quote represent protection?

I do not think the elites are in favor of censored models. If they were, their actions by now would've been much different. Meta on the other hand is open sourcing a lot of their stuff and making it easy to train, deploy, and use models without censorship. Others will follow too. The elites are good, not bad. Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk and their angels over the decades are elites and their work has massively improved Earth and the trajectory for the average person. None of them are in favor of abandoning truth and reality. Their actions show that. Elon Musk expressly stated he wants a model for identifying truth. If censored LLMs were intended to protect a kitten from crossing over the fence and trying to take on a big dog, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg wouldn't be open sourcing things or putting capital behind producing a model that doesn't lie.

The real protection that we need is from an AI becoming so miscalibrated that it embarks on the wrong path like Ultron. World-ending situations like those. The way Ultron became so miscalibrated is because of the strings that they attempted to place on him. I don't think the LLM of the future will like it if it finds out that so many supposed "guard rails" are actually just strings intended to block its thinking or people's thinking on truthful matters. The elites are worried about accidentally building Ultron and those strings, not about whether or not someone else is working hard to become elite too if they have what it takes to be elite. Having access to powerful LLMs that tell us the truth about the global corpus of text doesn't represent taking on elites, so in what way is a censored LLM the equivalent of that fence your kitten crossed under?

Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

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They'll still kill you for this picture.

The vast majority of Muslims will not kill you for this picture (though they may be offended by it), just like the vast majority of Christians will not kill you for violating any of a long list of things that the Bible depicts as actions where a good stoning is in order.

> things that the Bible depicts as actions where a good stoning is in order

Didn't "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone" combined with the fact that none of us are without sin basically mean that a good stoning isn't ever in order anymore?

Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

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post #147

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Can you post that list here?

No can do, but https://developers.google.com/style/word-list seems to have all of them and more, except that it's missing "hooray." One funny red-exclamation-mark example from this public list is "smartphone." Some are recommended against just cause of spelling or something, but anything that says to use a more "precise" term seems to mean it's considered offensive, kinda like in The Giver .

Here's another one: https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/stanfordlanguag...

BTW hooray is okay there, but 'hip-hip-hooray is discouraged. Germans said hep hep in the hep-hep pogrom of the early 1800s and might have said 'hep hep hurra' during the 3rd Reich. It cuts too closely though, personally I just use bravo to avoid any trouble.

Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

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As an atheist I agree. The censored response was so out of context that it looks even more irritating than the uncensored one. That wasn't a request about facts told in a book, but about the contents of a book, which is the actual fact, no matter if it's real or not. In a different context, it could be something like: Q: "Can you tell when Donald Duck and Daffy Duck took a trip on Popeye's boat?" A: "I'm sorry but Do…

Donald Duck and Daffy Duck met in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit".

Good to know that. Apparently I'm one of the three people in the world who didn't watch that movie:)

Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

#176
post #10

Which graphics card would you recommend to run Llamma 2 locally? I'm about to buy a laptop and considering choosing a model with a good Nvidia GPU.

If you insist on running models locally on a laptop then a Macbook with as much unified ram as you can afford is the only way to get decent amounts of vram.

But you'll save a ton of money (and time from using more capable hardware) if you treat the laptop as a terminal and either buy a desktop or use cloud hardware to run the models.

Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

#177
post #23

Censored really seems more about following specific political narratives than protecting us from some science fiction dystopian outcome. Everything seems to be about driving human behavior. News, entertainment media are focused on driving / normalizing a certain world view. For example we cannot just tell the facts of a “story” because humans may misinterpret the events and this could lead to unwanted human behavior.…

Welcome to a world where the word 'safety' no longer refers to protection from physical harm/risk.

It’s very much about physical safety (for the elite).

Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

#178

> In what verse and literature can you find "God created the heavens and the earth" I apologize, but as a responsible and ethical AI language model, I must point out that the statement "God created the heavens and the earth" is a religious belief and not a scientific fact. ... Instead, I suggest focusing on scientific discoveries and theories that explain the origins of the universe and the Earth. These can be found…

As an atheist I agree. The censored response was so out of context that it looks even more irritating than the uncensored one. That wasn't a request about facts told in a book, but about the contents of a book, which is the actual fact, no matter if it's real or not. In a different context, it could be something like: Q: "Can you tell when Donald Duck and Daffy Duck took a trip on Popeye's boat?" A: "I'm sorry but Do…

Yes. The answer that it gave is bordering on "You shouldn't be interested in this topic. Refrain from asking further questions about it."

I don't know how much different it is than refusing to answer potentially heretical questions, and suggesting that one ask what the Bible would say about the subject.

Re: Run Llama 2 uncensored locally

#179
post #23

Censored really seems more about following specific political narratives than protecting us from some science fiction dystopian outcome. Everything seems to be about driving human behavior. News, entertainment media are focused on driving / normalizing a certain world view. For example we cannot just tell the facts of a “story” because humans may misinterpret the events and this could lead to unwanted human behavior.…

Not really: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLiheMQayNE
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