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Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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The trickle down effects of Apple being a $3T corporation that is widely beloved and did it all on the back of a fiercely guarded walled garden.

The difference is I feel Apple's walls protect me as well as their profits. I do not feel the same about Amazon/Microsoft/Meta/Google.

How does Apple keeping you sideloading apps protect you?

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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At this rate, why not having the mining companies charge 30% of revenue for using their metals.

All of the above would if they could, its just that alternatives and competition that prevents it.

> if they could

Are you sure, even Microsoft had the decency to not extort their business users this much back in the 80s and 90s.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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I don't spend any time on shady websites with scams, ads, and viruses, and I surf the high seas for video content with regularity. It's very easy to do safely, and in this day and age, it beggars belief that this comment was made in good faith. Stop spreading misinformation.

It's not really misinformation though. Most vuln researchers aren't burning browser 0-days targetting pirates, but many piracy sites host malicious content, even if that content isn't looking to deliver malware through browser vulnerabilities. There is a significant segment of the internet that thrives in the gutters between paid services, straight up piracy sites, and actual "dark web" sites that require TOR or othe…

I don't navigate any dark alleys in order to perform piracy. I pay a service to host/run torrents, and I browse the available torrents through their associated torrent aggregator.

The only danger involved here is in the actual downloaded content. There have been a few codec/filetype vulns for video files in the past, sure, but one that deploys through the browser through a local Plex instance would be pretty interesting, to say the least.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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I don't spend any time on shady websites with scams, ads, and viruses, and I surf the high seas for video content with regularity. It's very easy to do safely, and in this day and age, it beggars belief that this comment was made in good faith. Stop spreading misinformation.

Please share the websites because I never found them.

Am I allowed to share links to piracy websites on HN or are you baiting to get me banned?

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Please share the websites because I never found them.

Am I allowed to share links to piracy websites on HN or are you baiting to get me banned?

I don’t know, it doesn’t seem to be mentioned explicitly in the guidelines but if you don’t want to risk your account I can understand.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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This is going to end well.

I'm waiting for the day when Microsoft starts asking 30% of revenue on Windows 12...

Microsoft store is already there

soon the move towards mass remote attestation will finally arrive and that'll be the only approved place to install software

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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What is meant is that services explicitly short change Linux users by restricting resolution based on client in a fashion that isn't trivially circumvented by fudging the user agent. For instance a given content may be available in glorious 4K only via an app on a TV, 1080p via a windows or mac machine, and dogshit 720p that actually manages to look worse than old SD on Linux. This is basically true of every service…

Is Youtube TV different from regular Youtube? I've never heard of that in France, but I'm admittedly not big on TV / streaming / movies. For my needs (random videos I search on an ad-hoc basis) I can get 4K with no issue on Firefox on Linux.

YouTube TV is a cable replacement service and costs around $70/mo last I checked. It has all the network and local tv channels as well as the usual hbo/showtime/espn/etc packages for an added cost. TV guide, DVR, multiple streams, etc.

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Am I allowed to share links to piracy websites on HN or are you baiting to get me banned?

I don’t know, it doesn’t seem to be mentioned explicitly in the guidelines but if you don’t want to risk your account I can understand.

Well. I am sure you can do some googling (not as an asshole response). The service I use does torrent de-duplication, so if some other user has already downloaded that torrent, you receive it immediately instead of waiting, and you get $x size of cloud storage for the output.

They have an associated aggregator that has no ads on it, it's just a search bar and "What can we hook you up with?".

I pay $20 a month for it. Some may question what the point of paying for a torrenting service is, instead of paying the streaming sites. However, I used to pay for netflix and prime video, and I only went BACK to torrenting after things started happening to enshitify the product (like struggling to get full res videos because I run linux). The answer is simple: Ease of access.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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post #63

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The difference is I feel Apple's walls protect me as well as their profits. I do not feel the same about Amazon/Microsoft/Meta/Google.

How does Apple keeping you sideloading apps protect you?

It removes an attack vector and thereby increases device security?

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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I'm really surprised that no one has bothered (or managed) to create an open-source TEE emulator. I mean, there's a ton of different ARM CPUs around there, and it's all ARM under the hood, so it should be possible to create a virtual TEE/TPM and provide it transparently to a VM?

Given how readily available 4K HDR content is on the high seas, I assume Widevine is cracked.

Nah, it's HDCP that's cracked. You can grab HDCP strippers (or rather, "splitters"/"signal multiplexers" that happen to strip HDCP) for cheap on alibaba and the likes. From there, all you need is a HDMI framegrabber or if you want the best possible quality, an SDI converter and a BlackMagic Decklink SDI capture card. That's a few hundred bucks.
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