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Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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My unsolicited advice: turn on a lamp in your workspace, and turn down your monitor brightness. An app like twinkle tray makes adjusting screen brightness as easy as adjusting speaker volume. Your eyes really don't care about emissive or reflected light.

Thanks for the recommendation, I didn't know such a thing existed

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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I owned lots of E-ink devices. I got a Boox Mira 13 inch screen and it works well on both Mac/Windows. On Windows I can even have some touchscreen interaction. But I have to warn you!!!! that your mouse is not going to work as it feels very different. So I use it only to read news, reply emails and messages. Coding, video, and gaming would be impossible! The same thing would 100% go to this new display. I have also g…

I have the boox nova 3 color that I bought on impulse and immediately thought I should return but ended up liking it and a big part of that was how good the PDF reader was and the fact its stylus is not powered yet works perfectly. The color feels more or less like a gimmick, I think I'd have liked the same device with no color e-ink just fine.

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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I owned lots of E-ink devices. I got a Boox Mira 13 inch screen and it works well on both Mac/Windows. On Windows I can even have some touchscreen interaction. But I have to warn you!!!! that your mouse is not going to work as it feels very different. So I use it only to read news, reply emails and messages. Coding, video, and gaming would be impossible! The same thing would 100% go to this new display. I have also g…

I have a remarkable 2 and use it to read PDF and e-books. e-pub was slow, so I use PDF. It doesn't have to phone home or use the cloud, which is sort of refreshing. I have never hooked it into any network or even bothered updating the software. I use USB which becomes a network interface, then connect to http://10.11.99.1/ and drag/drop files. This is all local. No built-in lighting, but it works great with a reading…

I would suggest either updating the software or installing KoReader.

The most recent official firmware has a much nicer UI, but is incompatible with homebrew at the moment.

KoReader is much, much nicer to use, as it's designed specifically for e-readers. It has no annotation or pen support, but the reading features are so much better than the stock software. I typically have it set to dual-column in landscape mode, I find it more comfortable to read with the gigantic screen.

Plus KoReader works with Calibre to manage your library over the network. It's really quite pleasant once you get it working

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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post #161

I owned lots of E-ink devices. I got a Boox Mira 13 inch screen and it works well on both Mac/Windows. On Windows I can even have some touchscreen interaction. But I have to warn you!!!! that your mouse is not going to work as it feels very different. So I use it only to read news, reply emails and messages. Coding, video, and gaming would be impossible! The same thing would 100% go to this new display. I have also g…

I have a remarkable 2 and use it to read PDF and e-books. e-pub was slow, so I use PDF. It doesn't have to phone home or use the cloud, which is sort of refreshing. I have never hooked it into any network or even bothered updating the software. I use USB which becomes a network interface, then connect to http://10.11.99.1/ and drag/drop files. This is all local. No built-in lighting, but it works great with a reading…

> remarkable 2

Fun fact, you can hook this up to your computer and use it as a drawing tablet, maybe I should open-source my plugin for this :)

> only nit, is sometimes swipe when turning pages is ignored and I have to do it a couple of times. (Maybe it is sleeping and needs to be woken?)

It's an issue with how you do the gesture, I have the most luck doing it around 60% down the screen, from one edge to the other, and waiting for the screen to finish refreshing before doing anything else.

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

RM2 ex-pat club member here too! Beautiful design, bizarrely crippled user experience. They put a wifi+bt chip on the board, but didn't connect the bluetooth signals, so you couldn't use a bluetooth keyboard with it like any other tablet. And a zillion other frustrations. I sold it to a friend after making super sure he was okay with the limitations and wouldn't blame me for selling him a lemon.

I've written about this on HN before, but the RM2 people don't make the device show up as a standard USB device, which makes file manipulations hard. I think this is an effort to sell their "cloud" server stuff for a few dollars a month. That's not been the effect on me; instead, I barely use mine, and complain about it on the Internet.

They also don't support USB OTG on the main port, so you can't even use a wired keyboard. They only just recently released a keyboard case that uses the Pogo pins on the side, but it's $200!!

There was an abandoned(?) attempt to enable OTG. The hardware supported acting as USB host, but couldn't supply 5v so you needed a powered hub as well as a wired keyboard.

But, the software support for text input is absolutely horrendous. It inserts a text block into the center of the current page and you can't move it. Hell, until the 3.0 update, you couldn't even delete notebooks on the device.

The RM2 is beautiful hardware that's about 90% developed with some truly awful software. Fortunately, you get root out of the box and the homebrew scene is active enough to give you most of the features that RM2 left out

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Thanks – I probably should have been clearer: I work in a variety of programs (FinalDraft, Highland 2, Gdocs, Scrivener, Notion) so I need to emulate what I see on my regular screen (OSX). My goal with the e-ink display is to be able to do more writing outside.

Then you could use Remote Desktop connection from your original laptop to a good EPD tablet, presumably Android based (to install the needed software on it). Or, of course, a monitor like that of the submission. But the biggest colour EPD tablet I see after a brief search is only 10.3'' big, see nearby https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=mdp2021 You will also have to be prepared to the different technology: latency,…

Sorry, wrong link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36944258

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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That refresh rate is pretty awesome. ...if that's real, and I'm a little skeptical, I kinda want a remarkable with one of these screens. That would be amazing. The poor refresh rate is one of the few things I don't love about my remarkable.

One of my coworkers has the grayscale version of that. The refresh rate goes up to maybe 20Hz on "fast mode" which sacrifices quality for speed. It looks pretty good regardless, but IMO the real benefit of these screens is in consuming long-form text content. My ReMarkable 2 has a perfectly fine refresh rate, especially for writing/drawing. Is yours the first gen maybe?

> My ReMarkable 2 has a perfectly fine refresh rate, especially for writing/drawing. Is yours the first gen maybe?

That's because it does not refresh the display when drawing - it transitions the pixels directly (it's called a direct update, or DU mode). I worked on the third-party SDK for this device (hi!) and the DU modes do suffer from ghosting (similar to e-ink monitors) until the display is properly refreshed to correct the charges in each pixel, but this ghosting is typically not too bad when drawing, especially since there is typically a full refresh whenever you zoom, pan, or switch pages.

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've written about this on HN before, but the RM2 people don't make the device show up as a standard USB device, which makes file manipulations hard. I think this is an effort to sell their "cloud" server stuff for a few dollars a month. That's not been the effect on me; instead, I barely use mine, and complain about it on the Internet.

They also don't support USB OTG on the main port, so you can't even use a wired keyboard. They only just recently released a keyboard case that uses the Pogo pins on the side, but it's $200!! There was an abandoned(?) attempt to enable OTG. The hardware supported acting as USB host, but couldn't supply 5v so you needed a powered hub as well as a wired keyboard. But, the software support for text input is absolutely h…

all these designs prove that rm2 is the worst product I have ever seen

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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post #161

I owned lots of E-ink devices. I got a Boox Mira 13 inch screen and it works well on both Mac/Windows. On Windows I can even have some touchscreen interaction. But I have to warn you!!!! that your mouse is not going to work as it feels very different. So I use it only to read news, reply emails and messages. Coding, video, and gaming would be impossible! The same thing would 100% go to this new display. I have also g…

I have a remarkable 2 and use it to read PDF and e-books. e-pub was slow, so I use PDF. It doesn't have to phone home or use the cloud, which is sort of refreshing. I have never hooked it into any network or even bothered updating the software. I use USB which becomes a network interface, then connect to http://10.11.99.1/ and drag/drop files. This is all local. No built-in lighting, but it works great with a reading…

Epub is basically just html, so it being slow on remarkable is pretty damning for the device.
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