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GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Is it really though? Look at the who's who of the Linux foundation and it's all the big tech lackeys deciding everything. Even very questionable companies like Huawei are highly represented. I don't call that anti-corporate.

To non-americans, all the companies in the linux foundation are as questionable as huawei.

Exactly. But we're on a US site where shitting on anything China is almost a guaranteed karma boost. Some posts are literally impossible to downvote.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Isn't Leah the person that sold ThinkPads on behalf of Libreboot, didn't send it, then put the blame on her mental issues? Then she abandoned the project and let the contributors take over, after some time she booted them with fake accusations, banned them from their IRC channel and took over the project. The contributors complained that she didn't even have the decency of contacting them, but she was adamant of taki…

[writes a ton of slander]

guys guys sorry I was wrong! but I've left the lies up, whoops how clumsy of me

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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I have no idea who those people are and their pasts, and have no horse in this race, but according to the https://libreboot.at website by Adrien Bourmault, Leah was the founder of the project. According to this [1], the alleged takeover you mention not only didn't involve Adrien or Denis Carikli, it also happened in 2021, two years before the creation of https://libreboot.at , which seems to be from 2023, and GNU Boo…

It appears to be a bonfire of vanities on all sides. One side goes "I use the trust you invested in me to block you from project resources, because my other project is soo much better but has less name-recognition." The other side goes "We are more pure, more righteous, and more petty at the same time! Let's show the other side by registering a confusing domain name and release a similiar but still different software with a long blurb why the other side is bad and must be destroyed! Oh yeah, and let's write scathing e-mails so nobody misses that we are petty."

This seems so weird to me. Why invest the energy? In the olden days we'd just fork and get to work.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Anecdotal counterpoint about "yelling". I was having a conversation with my mother at a Cafe. After 15mins the lady next to us, very genuinely and nicely, asked if we were ok because we were yelling at each other. We're Italian. That was our normal conversation! Someone's definition of aggressive discourse is definitely not everyone's.

That's why "Sir, please don't raise your voice" is so condescending and just a way to make it look like the other party is escalating.

It's not just a way to do that. There's no point imputing a motivation you made up to the other person. It's doing exactly what you're saying they're guilty of: assuming.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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Why is there so much drama around libreboot? I would prefer the software responsible for booting my machine to be trustworthy and boring, all this drama certainly doesn’t make it so. Perhaps more resources should be spent on supporting hardware newer than ~10 years instead of infighting?

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

#176
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> No. The better question is, why didn't FSF contact Leah before trying to publish their own Libreboot releases at libreboot.at? Why did they try to impersonate Libreboot? That's not a better question at all. They list out their explicit reasoning for their attempted name takeover. I definitely don't agree with it, but I have no reason to believe that they're lying about their own beliefs. I absolutely do have reason…

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There's absolutely nothing laudable in that at all and it screams of drama queen. "Lesser coders" - well that's is one person I'd avoid at all cost. Also, empty barrels make the most noise!

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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I'm 100% with you on that. Strong free software leadership (e.g. classic Torvalds), despite all its problems, is naturally anti-corporation. Anyone with a real job in a moderately Big Co. can tell you that.

Is it really though? Look at the who's who of the Linux foundation and it's all the big tech lackeys deciding everything. Even very questionable companies like Huawei are highly represented. I don't call that anti-corporate.

>Even very questionable companies like Huawei

That is an extremely Americanized take on that awful member list. Is Intel's history of being anticompetitive better? How about their presence in Israel? Is Meta better? Microsoft?

To a non-American, many (most) of those companies are worse than Huawei. Actually, any company who share user data with the government (as shown by Snowden) is much worse than Huawei.

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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post #39

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I have no idea who those people are and their pasts, and have no horse in this race, but according to the https://libreboot.at website by Adrien Bourmault, Leah was the founder of the project. According to this [1], the alleged takeover you mention not only didn't involve Adrien or Denis Carikli, it also happened in 2021, two years before the creation of https://libreboot.at , which seems to be from 2023, and GNU Boo…

It appears to be a bonfire of vanities on all sides. One side goes "I use the trust you invested in me to block you from project resources, because my other project is soo much better but has less name-recognition." The other side goes "We are more pure, more righteous, and more petty at the same time! Let's show the other side by registering a confusing domain name and release a similiar but still different software…

'One side goes"I use the trust you invested in me to block you from project resources, because my other project is soo much better but has less name-recognition"'

As some of us already said multiple times, this is a completely different story and unrelated to this. Let's maybe lets this misunderstanding die?

Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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The fact that the person who sent the C&D email allegedly tried to "take over" the Libreboot name (according to TFA) is also not a good look. I found this: https://libreboot.at > Who are we? Denis ‘GNUtoo’ Carikli and Adrien ‘neox’ Bourmault. We created this and maintain it. > take a stand for fully free software is to change URLs across the web from to , and to let people know that no other version of Libreboot is r…

I hadn't heard about this drama before, but as I can piece things together, Leah has been maintaining Libreboot and another boot system for years. Denis and Adrien disagreed with Leah's decision to include binaries, created their own version of Libreboot without those binaries and published it under the same name on a very similar domain trying to claim the existing Libreboot name for their version. Then I suspect Le…

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Re: GNU Boot sent a cease and desist to Libreboot

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There were some harassment threads popping up over the last couple months, both on /g/ and /pol/ where the chans started to doxx her again. So I would be careful in reading into this. Of course no evidence because by the time it appears here, most threads and comments have been deleted already and the desuarchive-like websites almost never contain all comments. That's how 4chan works after all. My comment: Leah has b…

You want people to look away because it might be baseless accusations based on your baseless accusations? I never go to such crap places as *chan, but I have seen enough Leah drama to know it is absolutely possible the blame is at least 50/50.

How about you do better than what you complain about and add proof? So far the only comment I have seen here that looks like throwing baseless accusations is yours.

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