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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by zirgs »

soraminazuki wrote: post #168
zirgs wrote: post #137

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This is the problem with the so-called "multipolar world". There aren't any other democratic poles. So - if you're a dissident or a whistleblower and you're too high-profile - you have nowhwere to go. Snowden has to live in Russia, because pretty much all Western countries would put him on the first plane to the USA if he ever tried to enter. My country extradites even our own citizens to the USA.

Snowden was stranded in Russia because his passport was revoked while he was headed towards South America.

He got lucky. South America isn't safe for him either. Look what happened to Assange. The Ecuadorian government changed and they kicked him out of the embassy soon after that. He wasted all those years there for nothing.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

kmeisthax wrote: post #63
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #48

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DMCA 1201 isn't just a crap law. It's completely unworkable, as has been known since before it was passed. Suppose Bob is in the business of duplicating public domain US government works. He downloads videos from the NASA website, presses them onto DVDs and sells them on eBay. He can do this without anybody's permission because DVDs are from the mid-90s and the patents are expired. He uses the same DVD format as Holl…

DVD supports both encrypted and unencrypted video, so Bob is only breaking the law if he's releasing a decryption tool. The entire DeCSS case hinged on video decryption specifically, everything else was already implemented by other parties. Now, if Bob decides to encrypt those DVDs, then you have an interesting legal area where half the law applies and the other half doesn't. DMCA 1201 only applies to things that pro…

> But if you distribute a DVD decryption tool, then you're harming the protection of copyrighted DVDs, so you can't distribute a decryption tool even though some jackass might try to functionally recopyright public domain material with DVD CSS.

I don't think you're appreciating how crazy that is.

Suppose some implements a DRM system that works like this. They have a server that speaks ordinary HTTPS and has a standard HTML page that serves content to anyone, but their proprietary client will filter the page on the client side and only show content after a user signs in and buys a license. The content is encrypted with ordinary TLS. If you visit the page using a standard browser instead of the vendor's proprietary client, it doesn't know anything about the filtering system but does implement the "encryption" (i.e. TLS/HTTPS) so it will "bypass" the DRM. Are web browsers now illegal?

Suppose someone implements a DRM system that works like this. The content comes unencrypted on a hard drive inside a computer that asks for a login. The computer is screwed shut with pentalobe screws. Are pentalobe screwdrivers now illegal? What if they sealed the computer with phillips screws?

Suppose I got saddled with a contract with someone saying I would encrypt their content, but I'm lazy so instead of designing a DRM system I just copy the on-disk format of Bitlocker and use a key of all zeros for everything. Anyone with a copy of Windows can decrypt all the content. Do I get to sue Microsoft?

Suppose a ransomware organization uses the same DRM system as a copyright holder. Illegal to provide anyone with tools to break the encryption?

It's absurd.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by bombolo »

vasco wrote: post #142
p-e-w wrote: post #102

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The only countries where American law is irrelevant are Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. Go anywhere else, and on closer examination you'll find that American law is in fact very relevant, with local governments often bending over backwards to accommodate US legal provisions. Copyright, financial regulation, and international travel are some of the areas where this is usually apparent, but far from the only ones…

Biggest army in the world, also the only reason most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2. This is something europeans forget when complaining about "outsized" US influence but then also don't invest in defense and keep being safe just by the grace of the US. This comes with a price. PS: I'm from europe

the red army didn't invade Berlin in your alternate universe?

Also USA funded terrorism, mafia, in italy… not something to brag about.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by bombolo »

musiciangames wrote: post #166
Foobar8568 wrote: post #110

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And if you ever work in any other countries, you would see the same in different language. Work in a Swiss company? Hope you enjoy German. At one stage, French people has to stop this self deprecating and think elsewhere is much better and only French does this or that. It is not.

Not my experience in Swedish company. n=1. It's not just business. Initially I felt awkward in shops, asking directions, etc using English. People just drop into English seamlessly.

And drop back to swedish without a care for the immigrant coworkerks :)

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by bombolo »

Glawen wrote: post #165
palata wrote: post #153

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And some speak Italian! Small note though: I highly doubt they speak German... that would rather be Swiss-German.

So in Scotland they speak Scottish-English? Irish-english in Ireland? What's your proficiency in these languages ?

germans can't understand swiss german.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by palata »

Glawen wrote: post #165
palata wrote: post #153

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And some speak Italian! Small note though: I highly doubt they speak German... that would rather be Swiss-German.

So in Scotland they speak Scottish-English? Irish-english in Ireland? What's your proficiency in these languages ?

I don't know about Scottish-English and Irish-English, to be honest. Would an English native understand them?

Germans don't understand Swiss-German, and Swiss-Germans don't consider German as their mother tongue. Whereas the French being spoken on the French part of Switzerland is slightly different from the French from France, but people still consider that French is their mother tongue.

Not sure if that answers your question, or if you were just complaining about the fact that I made a difference between German and Swiss-German :-).

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by abwizz »

sealeck wrote: post #146
zirgs wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the problem with the so-called "multipolar world". There aren't any other democratic poles. So - if you're a dissident or a whistleblower and you're too high-profile - you have nowhwere to go. Snowden has to live in Russia, because pretty much all Western countries would put him on the first plane to the USA if he ever tried to enter. My country extradites even our own citizens to the USA.

And then you get countries like France where they refuse to extradite probable child sex offenders.

everybody is a "probable child sex offender", so there is no ground to extradite.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by wkat4242 »

Foobar8568 wrote: post #110
wkat4242 wrote: post #72

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The French invented the word chauvinism :) They take their language very seriously likewise. I work for a French company and even though the official language is English you're kind of a second rate citizen if you don't speak it. Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :) They just are that way :P

And if you ever work in any other countries, you would see the same in different language. Work in a Swiss company? Hope you enjoy German. At one stage, French people has to stop this self deprecating and think elsewhere is much better and only French does this or that. It is not.

I don't work in france though.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by wkat4242 »

palata wrote: post #151
wkat4242 wrote: post #72

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The French invented the word chauvinism :) They take their language very seriously likewise. I work for a French company and even though the official language is English you're kind of a second rate citizen if you don't speak it. Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :) They just are that way :P

> They take their language very seriously likewise. [...] second rate citizen if you don't speak it. Try to not speak English in a US company, I guess?

I'm not based in France at all though!
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