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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by thayne »

post-it wrote: post #121
hospitalJail wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its so weird that one company isnt mentioned, but will straight up not allow you to run any programs they want. These have dark patterns, but freedom still. (Not M$ anymore, they restore defaults with each update)

Which company? You can run an unsigned .app on Mac with a ctrl+click, and there's also a system flag to change the block to a click-through popup. Apple is generally good at providing hidden flags to permanently turn off nanny mode, with a few exceptions (the context menu translation feature will happily tell you that a language isn't supported instead of letting you use Google Translate).

I think maybe they are referring to iOS, where you can't install any software not on the app store, and all non-safari browsers are required to use webviews instead of their own engine.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by noisy_boy »

hospitalJail wrote: post #140
splendor_spoon wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a funny take I see so often parroted by the self proclaimed ‘out-crowd’. Your need to feel different and therefore superior clouds your judgment. Some users like iPhones since they are reliable and consistent, exactly like a phone should be.

>Some users like iPhones since they are reliable and consistent, exactly like a phone should be. That is just the bare minimum. Its 2023, every phone is like this. Anyway, any teenager can tell you what its like to have the wrong kind of bubbles. They are extremely susceptible to in-group bias. Heck I wore Abercrombie and American Eagle, it wasn't because the clothes fit. I even had a single buddy, age 30, recently g…

> I even had a single buddy, age 30, recently get peer pressured into getting an iphone because his sister said "I don't date green bubbles".

All the people she didn't date thank her.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by nickspacek »

afiori wrote: post #154
mikepurvis wrote: post #37

Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.

This is what I want personally. I use different browsers for different things: let me fucking chose which browser to use. I am currently wondering how easy it would be to build a "shim browser" that you can set as default but does not actually open the page, it only list the urls apps tried to open and lets you copy them to whichever browser you prefer.

I'm currently experimenting with "link eye" from FDroid on Android. There's also [finicky](https://github.com/johnste/finicky) for MacOS.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by ntonozzi »

darrenf wrote: post #75
mikepurvis wrote: post #37

Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.

This is a changeable setting (though obviously it sucks that you have to make a choice to use your default browser). Hamburger > Settings > Default Apps (in "General" at the bottom)

Even with this setting enabled (for Safari), it still asks me every week or two where I want to open the link and tries to get me to download Chrome. I doubt they do this if you have Chrome enabled.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by chankstein38 »

acomjean wrote: post #89

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

Yeah I've complained on here about that as well. I'm not sure what they think they're doing but that made me want to stay as far away from Edge as possible. They really think they're going to win me over by creepily watching my downloads and popping stuff up the whole time I'm in the process of installing it?

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by afiori »

hackernewds wrote: post #167
afiori wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I want personally. I use different browsers for different things: let me fucking chose which browser to use. I am currently wondering how easy it would be to build a "shim browser" that you can set as default but does not actually open the page, it only list the urls apps tried to open and lets you copy them to whichever browser you prefer.

Seems like a dark pattern. Should have a "Choose this everytime" option, and you and I are both happy

Not really, because sometime default settings are weird and I would also want a "Forget all associations".

My point is broader than browsers: if an app wants to redirect me to another app I want a modal where I can select an alternative app and cancel the "redirect".

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by TrainedMonkey »

From "why we are doing this change" section:

> To provide a unique experience — at Microsoft, we strive to create the best customer experience across our products.

... they straight up admit using windows dominance to push other products.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by heap_perms »

userbinator wrote: post #10

Microsoft is always striving to improve and streamline our product experiences—offering a new way to use the classic Microsoft Outlook app on Windows and the Microsoft Edge web browser. to help you stay engaged in conversations as you browse the web. I wonder if the people who write this sort of BS-filled prose really believe in what they're writing. To be completely honest, the style almost sounds like LLM output.

I was thinking something similar. I cringe when I read stuff like this. At this point it's satire.
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