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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by hajile »

Reddit's privacy policy here seems to be pretty clear [0]

> Deleting Your Account

> You may delete your account information at any time from the user preferences page. You can also submit a request to delete the personal information Reddit maintains about you by following the process described below this table. When you delete your account, your profile is no longer visible to other users and disassociated from content you posted under that account. Please note, however, that the posts, comments, and messages you submitted prior to deleting your account will still be visible to others unless you first delete the specific content. After you submit a request to delete your account, it may take up to 90 days for our purge script to complete deletion. We may also retain certain information about you as required by law or for legitimate business purposes.

If you say you are deleting information and they don't do it, they are violating their privacy agreement.

Of course, that is in clear conflict with their TOS. [1]

> When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/policies/privacy-policy

[1] https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-september-...

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by b0afc375b5 »

293984j29384 wrote: post #22

I can confirm a comment I made in r/vmware has been restored. I typically delete my comments after 24 hours. I have a single comment from 20 days ago that was previously deleted now back on my profile.

Interesting. If it's alright to ask, why do you have this policy? In my case I never delete my posts/comments and always edit with a big "EDIT" disclosure.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by SkyPuncher »

veave wrote: post #120
smarx007 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, personal data in GDPR is much wider than American PII definition.

Maybe so, but stuff you post on public forums is not PII, neither by the American nor the European definition.

Something similar happens with HIPAA that people don’t understand.

Personal Health Information is only applicable in a specific setting (a covered entity). You telling your boss/friend/form about your health information does not make it PHI. You willingly disclosed that information.m, it loses its protected status.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by llm_nerd »

pontiacbandit8 wrote: post #152
llm_nerd wrote: post #12

Hanlon's razor. Anyone who has used Reddit for any period of time (or basically any similar site, which includes FB, Twitter, and even HN), has seen data consistency issues during high load (like periods of activism). Shards die or fall out of quorum, work queues get purged, etc. That's the reality of systems with a lot of very low value data. Eventually consistent, but also perpetually inconsistent.

Data consistency on comments n years old?

Unless someone has invented a data system that includes time travel as a feature, the original date of the comments is irrelevant.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

fabian2k wrote: post #55
blueblob wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your Reddit posts absolutely can have personally identifying information and therefore are subject to GDPR.

But we're talking about mass deletion of all your content here. If you specifically mention your real name or address or something like that in a post, it's a different situation.

There is almost 14 years of posts and comments linked to my account. While I'm always careful to not reveal any personal information online, if you mine through 14 years of reddit content I posted I guarantee you that there would be enough little nuggets of information there to figure out my actual identity.

You are sharing a lot more than you think you do. Here is a good example of how much can me determined from a single short video: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gabrielfriedlander_youve-got-...

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by krisoft »

xaitv wrote: post #121
nashashmi wrote: post #53

The Reddit wars have begun. Users were misled to believe they have power. And now are completely bewildered when they realize they don’t have as much power as they thought. The funny thing is that this is all over a stupid API that was causing more harm to Reddit than it was functioning as a public service. Apps were functioning as alternatives to the Reddit website and app. The whole thing about API back in 2000s is…

I think the current pricing of Reddit's API isn't meant to recoup costs of maintaining the API, it's meant to kill 3rd party apps so people switch to the official app, which shows ads. It's not so much the cost of maintaining the API than it is the cost of missed ad revenue.

> it is the cost of missed ad revenue.

Then ask for that, similar to youtube red? You estimate how much each person would net you in ad revenue and ask them to contribute that much.

It could be phrased as "do you like reddit? contribute to its upkeep."

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by [deleted] »

hajile wrote: post #171

Reddit's privacy policy here seems to be pretty clear [0] > Deleting Your Account > You may delete your account information at any time from the user preferences page. You can also submit a request to delete the personal information Reddit maintains about you by following the process described below this table. When you delete your account, your profile is no longer visible to other users and disassociated from conte…

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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by jabroni_salad »

nottorp wrote: post #57
scandinavian wrote: post #23

I really think they are just misunderstanding something. When I look at my profile, there's no comments, but I know there should be some. Isn't it more likely that when a subreddit you posted in goes private, the comments don't show up. The people in the linked thread ran the delete script after some subreddits went private. Now when some are made public again, so are their comments. Comments that were never deleted…

I don't think the delete function actually deletes anything. At best sets a flag. If i wrote public forum software, that's how I would do it and batch delete only comments that no one asked to undelete in at least a few months...

Delete Suite's main feature is actually that it edits your comment to be junk, rather than just deleting it. I come across some corpses linking to it every now and then.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by qzx_pierri »

jmholla wrote: post #167
qzx_pierri wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huffman (spez) has his reasons for the reddit changes, but they do seem a bit short-sighted. But there comes a point where these online services have to make money. It's as simple as that. So is he waging war on users, or making a business decision? Also, Musk is waging war against advertisers. Running a site that is controlled by advertisers is the epitome of extreme centralization, since the site's income can be ha…

> Musk is charging on Twitter so the users aren't the product. I think the adage is a little wrong. In Twitter's case users are still part of the product as the existing network effects and ability to communicate with users are part of the product, and thus it's users are. Not to such a significant degree as when advertisers are sweeping up every bit of data about you, but still to some degree.

> In Twitter's case users are still part of the product as the existing network effects

This is a nitpick. I'm speaking from the POV of keeping the site running, or not resorting to changing the site's essence to please advertisers.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Daneel_ »

hackinthebochs wrote: post #160
Daneel_ wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a huge incentive for Reddit to retain the comments - that’s their knowledge base. Without that a lot of their value is gone.

Retain is not equivalent to undelete (making visible to everyone).

If it’s not visible to other users or paying LLMs then it’s worthless. That’s what I’m getting at.
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