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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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And before/In parallel to Fark was SomethingAwful, which to my knowledge never did any meaningful redesigns and quasi died out because.. well i'm not even sure why, just a lot of us ended up leaving. Though I guess there's still some skeleton userbase left. Apologies to any goons if i'm misrepresenting things.

SA just never got new users to replace the ones that left or grew out of the site. Younger millennials went to Reddit and other social media. The weirder ones went on 4chan.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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I wish pg would call up Huffman and try to convince him that this is a bad bet regardless of whether they win. They’ll survive. But no one will love them anymore. I was still a fan of Reddit as a platform till the moment Huffman lied about Apollo’s developer for no reason whatsoever. That goodwill is hard to earn. And although goodwill isn’t convertible to dollars directly, it tends to affect trajectory over the long…

pg would tell him to push through this, get the IPO, cash out, and then leave Reddit to become an angel investor. Plus, pg would make money off the IPO. It’s a YC company after all.

pg has enough money. It’s not his primary motive.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

As much as I would like to believe that boycotts can work, I'm just too cynical after seeing all those boycotts doing nothing. My old.reddit.com homepage hasn't change much. Missing is r/ProgrammerHumor but r/Programming is there, alongside with r/darksky, r/wallstreetbets etc. All the porn seems to be there too, which might actually move some numbers if gone dark. The only sub which I care and it's gone is r/StableD…

A lot of the LLM ML communities have moved to Discord for bleeding edge development, as far as I know.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Twitter killed a lot of third party apps and it just grew and grew. I suspect there is a vocal minority complaining about these changes. Most sub’s are going dark for 2 days. Time will pass and Reddit will continue to have a highly active user base.

Techy/young people think that they are the intended audience of Reddit. You're not anymore. The intended audience is _bigger_. It's like how Facebook shifted from young college folks to kids, moms, grandpas, and mainly companies. The original users of Facebook left, but Facebook still grew. Now it's Reddit's turn to swap its original user base with a bigger target audience.

And do you think that new demographic will be willing to put in the same unpaid hours to moderate the site?

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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The problem is the business model is terrible. You need to sell ads to survive and the ads ruin the site.

I would say the problem is that the user base are low value users. They're the sort of people who will do a mass protest because one for-profit company wants to charge another for-profit company money. Advertisers don't want to advertise to them, seriously. Any other company with a different user base with that amount of users and traffic would be making a billion a year easily. Probably multiple billions. But Reddit…

Thing is, high value users won't use a site that has no content. There's no there there any more without the userbase.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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I was the creator of the OG Popurls which at the time was the #1 traffic driver for Reddit and Digg; and also created Twidroid the very first Android Twitter client which became one of the reasons for shutting down 3rd party apps after its acquisition. Since I'm a sucker for anything old-school Web, I've been working on a Digg 1.0 rehash for a while now so if any of you wants to beta test let me know.

I would be happy to give a look through it, email in my bio.

I dig that sort of thing, someone did something similar with classic MySpace: https://spacehey.com/. We just need Bebo back and we're sorted ;)

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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This references the Apollo client discussion and is wrong on many levels. 1. They are not "reining in" expenses, they are purposely pricing out 3rd-party clients (which probably has the goal to show more ads, not less) 2. The $10M buyout comments was a reasonable comment countering the statement that reddit loses $20M each year by users using Apollo. A comment which was a half-joke, as the audio recording shows clear…

> 2. The $10M buyout comments was a reasonable comment countering the statement that reddit loses $20M each year by users using Apollo. A comment which was a half-joke, as the audio recording shows clearly. In that case, buying Appolo for $10M would have been a steal and Reddit would have jumped on it. They didn't, their prior statement was probably a lie. If something loses me 20M$ per year and I have an option to b…

> If something loses me 20M$ per year and I have an option to buy it for 10M$ or kill it for 0$, I would choose the latter without much thinking.

Weren’t the $20M reddit claimed they are losing, missed opportunity costs? I.e. if Apollo users wouldn‘t use Apollo but the official app, they would make that amount of money off of them. So buying that amount of revenue for $10M sounds definitely reasonable to me. If what reddit claims would be truthful that would be a guaranteed 100% ROI.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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And before/In parallel to Fark was SomethingAwful, which to my knowledge never did any meaningful redesigns and quasi died out because.. well i'm not even sure why, just a lot of us ended up leaving. Though I guess there's still some skeleton userbase left. Apologies to any goons if i'm misrepresenting things.

> i'm not even sure why

In a word? Lowtax. It's quite the wild ride (with a few dark turns, regrettably): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhjMv9nxxWk

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