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Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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> "Don't be evil" is simply impossible for large corporations I see Patagonia as the antithesis of this broadly accepted assertion. It's possible, it just takes having a goal for your company that's more than greed.

Isn’t Patagonia privately owned though?

I don’t know the details of Patagonia’s ownership either now or before they put it in the trust, but Reddit is also privately owned (for now, anyway).

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…

Folks - if you want Apollo to survive, go make it known you are willing to pay $5 a month for access.

I know it's popular to hate on Reddit right now - and for good reasons, but folks, Apollo made a business decision that was unsustainable and entirely dependent on the good will of another (untrustworthy) 3rd party company.

It seems foolish to just shut down out of spite. The support for Apollo seems very strong - how about you all put your money where your support is and support Apollo?

How can we claim Apollo was so critical and necessary and everyone loves it - yet nobody wants to pay for a high quality app? This doesn't seem possible.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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> Steve: "Apollo threatened us, said they’ll “make it easy” if Reddit gave them $10 million." Steve: "This guy behind the scenes is coercing us. He's threatening us." I can't believe that CEO of Reddit was telling internal people that Apollo tried to blackmail Reddit for a $10 million payout when that didn't happen.

They also made the same claim in r/partnercommunities too, not just internally. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/143sho8/admins_c...

That’s a private sub, but boy I’d love to see that bloodbath of a comment section after Christian released the call recordings.

It is always remarkable to see what an absolute bankruptcy of ethics some corporate leaders are burdened with, and a relief to see the consequences hit them in the face.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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> Steve: "Apollo threatened us, said they’ll “make it easy” if Reddit gave them $10 million." Steve: "This guy behind the scenes is coercing us. He's threatening us." I can't believe that CEO of Reddit was telling internal people that Apollo tried to blackmail Reddit for a $10 million payout when that didn't happen.

They also made the same claim in r/partnercommunities too, not just internally. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/143sho8/admins_c...

>It’s an extraordinary amount of data, and these are for-profit businesses built on our data for free.

No spez you utter cunt. The data is not yours. It's my posts on your website. Your own fucking terms say I grant you a right to copy it, not that it's fucking yours.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Don't be evil" is simply impossible for large corporations I see Patagonia as the antithesis of this broadly accepted assertion. It's possible, it just takes having a goal for your company that's more than greed.

Isn’t Patagonia privately owned though?

Not just privately owned, but given away irrevocably by said owner to charity, and done in a way that intentionally incurred a large tax bill.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/14/climate/patagonia-climate...

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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> Steve: "Apollo threatened us, said they’ll “make it easy” if Reddit gave them $10 million." Steve: "This guy behind the scenes is coercing us. He's threatening us." I can't believe that CEO of Reddit was telling internal people that Apollo tried to blackmail Reddit for a $10 million payout when that didn't happen.

To be honest it sounded like that to me too. It's very hard to differentiate between some honest clumsy phrasing and fishing for a payout, and the "clarification" doesn't help with that since it could also be an excuse to save face.

And the Apollo dev would be well within his right to _actually_ threaten them like that, because that's what Reddit is doing to him.

Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

#180

Apollo is such an incredibly high quality app — in fact, it’s so good that I haven’t had it installed on my phone in a couple of years because when I have it I spend way too much time on Reddit. The features, the polish, the customizability — everything about it is really top notch.

I always enthusiastically recommended it to my friends telling them it felt more like a native first-party Apple app than any actual native first-party Apple app.
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