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Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

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Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#171

I wish they would just let Reddit die. I hate it so much. I'm tired of ecosystems. We need to get away from content farms. Get away from shitty monetization driven efforts. Get away from shitty people moderating communities without giving members any locus of control. Bring back the 90s web. Bring back personal websites. Bring back people sharing their own content on their own terms. God I hope Reddit sticks to this…

peak boomer-posting

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

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I think the people this change will hurt are in large part fine with paying a reasonable sum for API access. I have no idea what reddit would consider a reasonable number (if they actually tried), but for me it's probably in the $1-5/month range. That's full API access of course, not the limited API they've had which doesn't allow e.g. vote interaction, nor an API without NSFW content like they are proposing now with…

Reddit charges $7/mo for Reddit Premium. I assume it's worth at least that much to Reddit.

I have no interest in 5 of the 6 perks listed as part of reddit premium, and $7 is more than I think is reasonable, but if that were the only option I think I'd pay it, assuming that the service remains about the same that it has been (which I doubt very much would be the case unfortunately).

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#173

I wish they would just let Reddit die. I hate it so much. I'm tired of ecosystems. We need to get away from content farms. Get away from shitty monetization driven efforts. Get away from shitty people moderating communities without giving members any locus of control. Bring back the 90s web. Bring back personal websites. Bring back people sharing their own content on their own terms. God I hope Reddit sticks to this…

No! Hacker News at least has room for reasonable discussion. Reddit seems to be full of mean-spirited 8th graders with a political agenda. The only problem is the amount of interesting content that flows by is too compelling.

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#174

I wish they would just let Reddit die. I hate it so much. I'm tired of ecosystems. We need to get away from content farms. Get away from shitty monetization driven efforts. Get away from shitty people moderating communities without giving members any locus of control. Bring back the 90s web. Bring back personal websites. Bring back people sharing their own content on their own terms. God I hope Reddit sticks to this…

Discord, Patreon, are.na, read.cv... There's lot's of smaller communities out there you just have to stumble into them (maybe pay a small fee for them)

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#175

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> I'm an Apollo user and I'll be dramatically reducing my use of Reddit if and when the third party apps are killed. Devil's advocate: are your current usage patterns making money for Reddit? If not, then your reduced usage will be considered a win by Reddit, all things being equal.

Yes. I create content, which generates traffic, which generates ad-revenue.

There's not going to be a lot of ad-revenue if a sufficient number of users are like you that use 3rd party clients. Content creation/consumption on Reddit follows power laws, therefore the vast majority of Apollo users are consumers who do not generate any ad-revenue while costing Reddit compute and bandwidth.

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

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post #77

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We need to go back to build open protocols. Protocols instead of programs. And then let Open Source and companies build the programs. That was a fight we had "won" on the days of MP3 (very painful), SMTP, MKV, among others during the 80s and 90s. The fact that people are now more willing to go back to install "real software" (in the form of phone applications) instead of web apps is an opportunity.

'We' are building such a protocol with ActivityPub. What's wrong with it that you have ignored it?

Aaah!! I was just trying to remember the "facebook killer" . Diaspora!! IIRC ActivityPub is what c as me from its inception in 2010.

Nothing wrong with it. Good job what the team has been doing. Now we only need some entity to build the "killer" social network app using it.

Something like the Hotmail or (later) Gmail of SMTP.

I'll be waiting!

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#177

I wish they would just let Reddit die. I hate it so much. I'm tired of ecosystems. We need to get away from content farms. Get away from shitty monetization driven efforts. Get away from shitty people moderating communities without giving members any locus of control. Bring back the 90s web. Bring back personal websites. Bring back people sharing their own content on their own terms. God I hope Reddit sticks to this…

Discord, Patreon, are.na, read.cv... There's lot's of smaller communities out there you just have to stumble into them (maybe pay a small fee for them)

Discord is just reddit with even more issues (no discoverability, completely closed, good luck searching for anything).

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I create content, which generates traffic, which generates ad-revenue.

There's not going to be a lot of ad-revenue if a sufficient number of users are like you that use 3rd party clients. Content creation/consumption on Reddit follows power laws, therefore the vast majority of Apollo users are consumers who do not generate any ad-revenue while costing Reddit compute and bandwidth.

The percentage of views from third-party clients is single-digit, but it's likely a significantly above-average percentage of those are power users who generate content, moderate subreddits, or both.

This suggests to me that management is not interested in making it a long-term sustainable business after the IPO, but in a short-term cash grab.

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#179

I wish they would just let Reddit die. I hate it so much. I'm tired of ecosystems. We need to get away from content farms. Get away from shitty monetization driven efforts. Get away from shitty people moderating communities without giving members any locus of control. Bring back the 90s web. Bring back personal websites. Bring back people sharing their own content on their own terms. God I hope Reddit sticks to this…

peak boomer-posting

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