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This is, quite literally, the best and safest time in the history of the US to be openly LGBT. This sounds like a reddit comment. I suggest getting offline for a bit and actually spending time with other people in real life.
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I don't think that's a real option though, because many people suffering from depression haven't been "done" anything to by anyone, or if they have, it's not out of the ordinary or different to what's been done to other people who are not depressed. Like losing your job, or splitting up with your spouse, or simply just existing. Some people react with depression to a serious grievance or ill inflicted upon them (this…
>because many people suffering from depression haven't been "done" anything to by anyone Some may lack the tools to identify the reason for their depression, that's not the same as nothing having happened to them. >it's not out of the ordinary or different to what's been done to other people who are not depressed It's entirely possible that the people who are not depressed are in fact the ones who are sick. >some rea…
In some cases. In others that's not the case. The latter are the cases of depression I'm talking about.
> It's entirely possible that the people who are not depressed are in fact the ones who are sick.
No, we can safely rule this out. The people who are not depressed are not sick, and depression is a real disease.
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I don't think that's a real option though, because many people suffering from depression haven't been "done" anything to by anyone, or if they have, it's not out of the ordinary or different to what's been done to other people who are not depressed. Like losing your job, or splitting up with your spouse, or simply just existing. Some people react with depression to a serious grievance or ill inflicted upon them (this…
Even if they have had something done to them by someone, … they're still depressed? Holding people accountable is nice (though I agree that not all causes of depression are necessarily from acts we'd consider needing accountability), but the post above seems akin to saying "we need to hold the shooter responsible, but we don't need to treat that gunshot wound"?
I'm saying depression sometimes has an identifiable trigger and sometimes it doesn't. In both cases it's a serious disease.
For many cases of depression, there's no identifiable "trigger" you can point at and say "this, this is the reason this person started suffering from depression".
Even when there is such a trigger, e.g. a divorce, losing their job, or the death of a loved one (say, a parent), people who are not depressed can overcome it. Life goes on, you don't get wrecked forever, you slowly rebuild your life. Whereas a person suffering from depression may never recover, so that a dramatic event in their lives overpowers everything else, forever, and they fail to recover, if they do at all.
The person I'm replying to seems to imply the depressive "let's get wrecked forever, life has no more meaning" is the "correct" response, and on the contrary, that picking up your life is "sick".
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Even if they have had something done to them by someone, … they're still depressed? Holding people accountable is nice (though I agree that not all causes of depression are necessarily from acts we'd consider needing accountability), but the post above seems akin to saying "we need to hold the shooter responsible, but we don't need to treat that gunshot wound"?
What I'm saying is more akin to "you're being strangled, and we should take the person's hand off your neck"
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One absolute prerequisite for this would be making the minimum wage a thriving wage. Until and unless that happens, jobs traditionally seen as "bottom of the barrel"—things like fast food, grocery cashier, etc—will remain an important source of jobs for those in dire straits (very much including adults with families), while also still paying so little that even a teenager looking to make some money over the summer mi…
> making the minimum wage a thriving wage What makes you say that someone should be able to "thrive" on the least-paying job? That's like saying that the dumbest person should be able to do get into selective universities, or that the weakest and slowest person should be able to win medals at sporting competitions. Let me put it another way. Does $66k/year sound like a thriving wage to you? That's a little over $4k/m…
Why do you think any human being deserves not to thrive?
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It depends what you mean by sexual orientation. For example, I don't think adult pedophiles ever stop being sexually aroused by children. They just learn not to act on their urges. > People who are straight occasionally do become bi or gay, and vice versa. Past puberty? Do they really change sexual orientation or do they realize they were X all along? And is it really the result of acclimatization or the result somet…
>I don't think adult pedophiles ever stop being sexually aroused by children. They just learn not to act on their urges. Adult pedophiles can stop being sexually aroused by children, because there's still a cognitive component to it. In the same way that you might for example, stop being attracted to your partner if you start associating them with a negative memory, a softcore pedophile might lose their attraction to…
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> making the minimum wage a thriving wage What makes you say that someone should be able to "thrive" on the least-paying job? That's like saying that the dumbest person should be able to do get into selective universities, or that the weakest and slowest person should be able to win medals at sporting competitions. Let me put it another way. Does $66k/year sound like a thriving wage to you? That's a little over $4k/m…
Let me turn this around on you. Why do you think any human being deserves not to thrive?
It's not that I think some people deserve to be miserable, but I am confident that no political-economic system is capable of fully eliminating misery, let alone ensuring that everyone thrives. (I assume we agree that there is a middle ground between misery and thriving.)
Consider that even Norway, which is a truly remarkable combination of a monoethnic culture that values hard work, high social trust, and incredible natural wealth, has homeless people to the tune of 0.62 per 1000[0]; vs. the US at 1.8 per 1000[1]. You'd think that homelessness rate in Norway with all its advantages would be one-tenth that of the US.
Moreover, I am confident that a political-economic system that can guarantee everyone's success is not one that is sustainable over the long run, nor one that isn't a few bad generations away from turning into something authoritarian and rapidly worse off for its inhabitants.
[0]: https://www.feantsa.org/public/user/Magazine/Spring_magazine...
[1]: https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/homeless...
In the last few years inflation has hurt the fuck out of all but the richest Americans. Financial stress leads to depression. Add both political parties are constantly telling us the other side is ruining everything and it's just piling it on. A recession is here/coming.
Why does the US have higher depression rates than any country in Africa then? Aren't there a lot of people there under financial stress?
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If someone was born post-AIDS (so roughly age 40 and below), they'd have gotten to see things slowly improve until 2016, when they started sliding back.
> until 2016, when they started sliding back. I really doubt there are statistics to back this up. More likely, the number of people consuming rage-bait (drawing attention to the worst) on social media such as reddit has done up. Without such social media, an asshole yells abuse in a store and it ruins the day of 20 people in earshot. With social media, it gets uploaded and viewed by 20,000 people.