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TP–7 Field Recorder

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Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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It honestly looks like "we just keep asking for more for less and people keep paying that"

It's like a Leica camera. You buy one to be seen with it, not so much to use it. If you want the ultimate in a retro-cool field recorder, look for a Nagra IV. https://www.nagraaudio.com/product/nagra-iv-family/

Anyone know what their security devices are "Access to the NAGRA security devices is restricted to Law-enforcement and official government agencies only. "

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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It's beautiful and sparks joy. But a Zoom F3 is a strictly superior device in all dimensions and costs $350. This recorder doesn't even support microSD cards or replaceable batteries. It's fundamentally unserious.

I generally write with bottom of the barrel Lamy Safari or Faber Castell Grip pens, however sometimes I reach for something much more expensive to spend some quality time with my thoughts or write a letter.

I think this strictly falls into second category, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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I personally find their products beautiful, they remind me a lot of Dieter Rams. Which designs would you consider aesthetically pleasing?

It looks like an off-brand 90s gaming console to me. As for a design I personally consider timeless… how about the Lamy 2000 fountain pen? Gorgeous bauhaus design, and completely user disassembleable by hand with 0 tools. The body is made from Makrolon, which is fiberglass infused lexan. Feels great in the hand, with a slight warmth and texture, and practically indestructable. Writes like a dream, too. Been in contin…

I don't think Teeneage Engineering's looks is that different from Bauhaus, excluding maintainability.

Lamy 2000 is built with pure Bauhaus ideals and it nailed every one of them on the head. I have many and use them constantly. I think Lamy 2000 is the only "Objectively good" fountain I have ever seen and used, and it hides its properties so well, too. It's a very understated masterpiece of design and engineering.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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You are not. It's like Patrick Bateman's Fisher-Price to me. This thing in particular is purely for posers, even more than their other stuff. I find it condescending, and nebulously offensive.

> Patrick Bateman's Fisher-Price Oh wow, that one is going in the memory bank for future use.

Indeed, my mind field recorded that one!

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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I feel like I'm the only person who isn't a fan of Teenage Engineering's design. It's all a bit too uncanny valley for me.

You are not. It's like Patrick Bateman's Fisher-Price to me. This thing in particular is purely for posers, even more than their other stuff. I find it condescending, and nebulously offensive.

“Patrick Bateman’s Fischer-Price” is a superb phrase, captures the essence of the situation. I can see Bateman and friends comparing their devices one upping each other - this one has “embossed buttons”…etc!

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Not really fair assesment. At pro level that price really doesnt matter. Saying that its bad because it looks is stupid. What matters is if its reliable and functions well. If it does it might just mean that the premium materials make it last longer.

Pro level mics have a lot to say about their audio quality: Why it's good, why it's innovative, etc. This TP-7 doesn't. Not at all. Their marketing is heavily based on how cool it looks, with very little if any stuff like audio samples, frequency response, etc. In other words, their marketing materials say "it's good, because it looks good"... Teenage Engineering make shiny expensive toys, and market an 'experience'.…

I know pro musicians who love their stuff. TX-6 is great little mixer for both recording and performance. OP-1 despite the hate is portable focused audio lab that is perfect for creating little music ideas. Sure you can get something from Electron for less money but is it as portable or quirky to bring out new ideas? For some it's really important and so are the aesthetics.

I think there are qualities that are important in creative process that you overlook. The mood, your environment, quality of your tools even how "cool" they look is not something secondary.

Actually most good musicians i know care more about the feel of a tool (touch, how it clicks, how heavy it is) than they care about frequency response. They might even like things that sound in certain way and not always "correct".

For some usecases this doesn't matter sure - like if you are some reporter - get Zoom or Sound Devices. But there are people liking and buying these and they are not just posers.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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End of the day TE products are closer to toys than they are tools. I mean that in a positive way in the sense the people who buy them get excited about them and using them makes them happy but you have to build your workflow around them.

Although their "Field" range is starting to feel overpriced by their standards, Kinda think if the mixer was around $500, the recorder around $600 and the Microphone around $350 the range would be a lot more compelling, like line the pricing up so buying all 3 is closer to the price of the OP-1 Field not double the price of the OP-1 Field.

I'm sure they'll sell enough, just think aiming for that pricing would have made buying the whole set a no brainer for the TE fans.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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You don't find the TX-6 too small? That's what's preventing me from even considering buying it. If it were a little bigger, I'd be dreaming about getting it, or perhaps even actually getting it.

Look at the 1010music Bluebox. It's about twice the size of the TX-6, half the price, and infinitely more usable as an actual mixer and multitrack recorder.

i know it, it's a decent alternative. it's not useful as a bluetooth controller (I use TX-6 for both mixing inputs as well as software mixing sources on the iPhone), it's not an audio interface. the bluebox also has no battery so you have to increase the size further to attach one. does not fit the same use cases. not what you'd get bluebox for but I also use TX-6 as a BTLE performance device apart from its mixer capability (like the TX-7 stem player prototype was before it had any audio inputs) which again has nothing comparable that can be handheld.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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I disagree, I find the TX-6 and OB-4 at least highly functional tools without peers. There are no mixers with the function of the TX-6 and the next closest comparables are still near the same price with several major gaps. OB-4: The only other one I found which isn't just a bt hifi and tries to be an actual studio monitor is the iLoud, there is a new product from Fender as well. I also have the iLoud and stopped usin…

Eh, I feel like most people would never use 80% of the "features" of the TX-6, which mostly feel like bolt-on justifications for its price tag. If you want a super portable mixer, something like the 1010 Bluebox is infinitely better at being a proper mixer than the TX-6 is, for half the price.

bluebox being the closest comparable shows that the price is not absurd given how much bluebox lacks (aspects that I at least do use)
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