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Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by circlefavshape »

rerx wrote: post #152
Jenk wrote: post #79

Netflix have really dissapointed me. I've been a subscriber since before streaming, and have even been content paying the subscription fee during the "breaks" of not using their service for up to months at a time because I so badly want(ed) them to succeed. I also understood the difficult situation they were facing when the producers of content were makkng ridiculous demands on their distribution, or worse, just pull…

Compared to competitors, Apple TV+ currently appear to put much more emphasis on quality over quantity in their original content. I really enjoyed some shows like Severance, For All Mankind, Trying, Acapulco, Foundation. It reminds me of the time when Netflix Originals stood for content to be excited about. What they don't have is a back catalog of licensed films and shows included with the flat rate offering (they a…

FWIW I thought Foundation was incredibly poor

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Post by rerx »

commitpizza wrote: post #141
hurril wrote: post #90

I can understand the outrage over content, wokeness, the direction, etc. But being angry over having to pay for services rendered? Come on. Don't use Netflix (or the alternatives) as a comfy Piratebay. Get it together, we're not children.

Many people already pay for the service. They pay for a multi user account, the problem is that they are cutting off people that are not living under the same roof. Then they require you to pay an additional $8 for each extra member, it that would be the premium cost (approx $19 where I live) and an additional ~$16 if you add two users. That's $35 a month for a service that is filled with woke bs content, 10% of what…

At least in Germany I can find a streaming source via justwatch.com for most movies that I want to watch. Often they are included in one of the flatrate offerings, but the vast majority of classics are available to rent from Amazon and Apple for ~4 euros.

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Post by iamsaitam »

The movie "The Green Knight" came into Germany's Netflix recently. An English movie about an Arthurian legend and you can only watch it in German without any subtitles. Ludicrous.

Can someone shed some light on the regulations in practice regarding subtitles? As an expat living in Germany, there's plenty of times that the offerings have no subtitles in English and are dubbed. Do they have to pay more license fees to include English subtitles?

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Post by GordonS »

CubsFan1060 wrote: post #170
GordonS wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got this with Amazon Prime in Thailand recently too. Incredibly annoying - what does it matter where I stream from?!

I believe they need a license to stream in different countries. If they don’t have a license to stream in Thailand I don’t think they will let you watch there.

Regardless, it certainly "feels" unfair.

I did try using a UK-based IP too, but that didn't work (it was a data centre IP, so I guess they block them all).

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Post by npteljes »

hurril wrote: post #90

I can understand the outrage over content, wokeness, the direction, etc. But being angry over having to pay for services rendered? Come on. Don't use Netflix (or the alternatives) as a comfy Piratebay. Get it together, we're not children.

I feel the same. Netflix (and other streaming sites) provide insane value for a measly subscription price. In comparison, I think books, DVDs, CDs are way overpriced. Youtube Premium is the other thing. They make their own advertisements go away for $5/mo in Hungary, which is half of a cheap meal at a restaurant, and people act like it's pulling teeth.

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Post by polychrome28 »

circlefavshape wrote: post #171
rerx wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to competitors, Apple TV+ currently appear to put much more emphasis on quality over quantity in their original content. I really enjoyed some shows like Severance, For All Mankind, Trying, Acapulco, Foundation. It reminds me of the time when Netflix Originals stood for content to be excited about. What they don't have is a back catalog of licensed films and shows included with the flat rate offering (they a…

FWIW I thought Foundation was incredibly poor

It might not been great, but they didn't set out to produce a cheap and fast show.

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Post by kalleboo »

pdimitar wrote: post #128
pokepim wrote: post #9

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They are probably going back to torrenting and similar. When disney was slow to rollout in some countries my friends did not want to wait for Mandalorian to drop with Disney plus over there in Europe. They just downloaded it for free and did not even need to sign up for disney when it came one year later. If the streaming companies start to provide subpar and cumbersome service and charge hundreds of dollars for it p…

Why was this comment dead? Since when are HN comments policed for the word "torrent"? Vouched it so it's visible. It also makes a valid point, torrenting is definitely a reality and denying it will not make it go away.

Looks like all the comments this user has posted for the past month have been killed

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Post by rerx »

circlefavshape wrote: post #171
rerx wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to competitors, Apple TV+ currently appear to put much more emphasis on quality over quantity in their original content. I really enjoyed some shows like Severance, For All Mankind, Trying, Acapulco, Foundation. It reminds me of the time when Netflix Originals stood for content to be excited about. What they don't have is a back catalog of licensed films and shows included with the flat rate offering (they a…

FWIW I thought Foundation was incredibly poor

The first season could have been better, but it has great production values and as far as I can tell they see it as an investment and they are not going to cancel it soon. So for now I'm optimistic about a second season.

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Post by pdimitar »

kalleboo wrote: post #177
pdimitar wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why was this comment dead? Since when are HN comments policed for the word "torrent"? Vouched it so it's visible. It also makes a valid point, torrenting is definitely a reality and denying it will not make it go away.

Looks like all the comments this user has posted for the past month have been killed

Now that you mentioned it, I went and checked and it became much weirder.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by jeroenhd »

gcatalfamo wrote: post #24

From the comments in this thread, many are not understanding that password borrowers are typically contributing to the account owner's monthly subscription, and many account owners, when faced to the full price of the subscription will eventually unsubscribe as well. 5€ month for what Netflix has to offer is one thing, 18€/month, for many, becomes an instant no-deal.

I'm not sure if that's the case necessarily. I'm sharing my account but people aren't sending me money every month to cover expenses.

Instead, we pool accounts. If I wanted to, I can get Disney+ and regular TV, while I provide Netflix and Amazon Prime in return. If all else fails, there's a Jellyfin server that gets regular use.

Everyone pays full price, but everyone only pays for one service, maybe two. The fragmentation of services is the real killer here. This wasn't a problem back when Netflix first came here and basically offered everything there was to offer until then Disney clawed back a whole bunch of its properties. €18 for Netflix would be fine if you weren't also expected to pay €17 for Amazon Prime and €19 for Disney+ and €14 for Paramount Plus and €15 for HBO Max (only available on some ISPs).

I'd pay full price for a streaming service that had everything and I think many people I know would too. I'd even be able to look past the stupid 720p limit (I run Linux so I cannot be trusted with the noisy 1080p encodes). Instead, my workflow now comes down to "check Netflix, if not found, download torrent".

These companies could've had the Spotify of video streaming services, which basically ended traditional music piracy, but instead wound up burning their version of Spotify down for a short term profit.

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