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Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Post by wouldbecouldbe »

walnutclosefarm wrote: post #76

So many comments here claiming to understand the effect of fasting on humans generally through personal experience. Come on, people - your experience is a datum, it's not data, and your entirely subjective conclusions drawn from that datum are not analysis. People's response to fasting varies widely. Hunger is both a physiological and a psychological phenomenon - and like any phenomenon with a psychological component…

Data is also overrated. Data is often highly convoluted, with multiple causes in one correlation.

We want to understand the way things work, and correlation can give us hints. But so can individual experience. But "data" is often used as the truth.

So yeah individual experience here is valid. Hunger is not as simple as every hour you eat you get more hungry, and that's valid to deduct from personal experience.

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Post by testfoobar »

franciscop wrote: post #16

Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

Agreed - this person may not have experienced ketosis and how it feels.

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Post by bmacho »

glogla wrote: post #63
fhackenberger wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely doable and very common in many old cultures, have a look at the film "The science of fasting" (original German), might be eye opening: https://youtu.be/WgLJ_dfKy1E

> Video unavailable. This video contains content from LDS, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds I hope LDS burns in hell, whoever they are.

https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=WgLJ_dfKy1E

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Post by bmacho »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #64
glogla wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Video unavailable. This video contains content from LDS, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds I hope LDS burns in hell, whoever they are.

Same here. Guess they don’t like Ecuador.

Apparently the only whitelisted regions are DE and FR, so they don't like a lots of people.

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Post by _2uwr »

ren_engineer wrote: post #111
franciscop wrote: post #16

Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

best option is to just assume every psychology/social sciences article is bullshit, pretty much all of the most famous studies have failed to replicate. And many of those studies were used to justify trillions of dollars in federal spending over the past few decades

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

wpietri wrote: post #117
franciscop wrote: post #16

Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

Yeah, as somebody who has experimented with fasting, I think it's a huge mistake to think that Ramadan fasters would respond like hungry non-fasters. Fasting is a common religious practice because it is both a challenge and a discipline. To get good at fasting, you have to work to unlearn habits of instant gratification and learn to consciously lean against the urgings of the body. A fasting practice develops real sk…

Ramadan fasts aren't really much as far as fasts go. They last only during daylight hours and you can stuff yourself silly in the mean time.

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Post by nativeit »

ren_engineer wrote: post #159
kvee wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the best thing is to do more research to understand more rather than rejecting the scientific method entirely. It has and will continue to get better and better over time, with occasional regressions that may seem meaningful in the short term but are tiny blips when you zoom out. The history of science is one false theory being replaced by another that’s (usually) marginally closer to the truth.

peer review only really took off in the last few decades and it has been a disaster. Nothing about my post says anything about the scientific method, it's about sham fields that lack rigor and use cartels of influence to push each others pet theories to support their own ideologies.

Well this is somewhat ironic, but “citation needed” on that first statement.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Post by sva_ »

franciscop wrote: post #16

Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

I've done a waterfast before and for me this point was somewhere around the beginning of the third day. I could've kept going really, but I noticed my body had started to break down muscle (day 8.)

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Post by otikik »

franciscop wrote: post #16

Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

Doing something on purpose is completely different than not having a choice at all, psychologically.

I have been working remotely for 15 years, that’s how I like it. But the two years of pandemic with forceful social distancing were really hard.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Post by user3939382 »

jraby3 wrote: post #17
franciscop wrote: post #16

Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

I’ve gone on multiple 3-5 day fasts and disagree (or at least haven’t gotten to this point). My hunger seems to stabilize at very hungry after about two days.

Yep. Actually I feel myself turning into a wild animal. I can smell food from distances and food becomes my only thought.
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