Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid 'plummeting' Mac sales

Post by lostmsu » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 1:00 PM UTC

Dalewyn wrote: post #156

enlyth wrote: post #70

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Apart from this, if you're an enthusiast who likes to build their own PC, component prices have gone insane. A flagship GPU is 2000 dollars, and motherboards are priced so high that Gamer's Nexus decided to do a 25 minute video rant about it. The returns are diminishing, it's not worth to get a 4090 RTX with DDR5 and a compatible mobo, if for 1/3 of the price you can get 90% of the performance with a used 3090 and DD…

>motherboards are priced so high Only if you go for the really stupid RGB "gamer" motherboards sprinkled with more fairy dust than sense. Something like this ASUS Prime Z690-P[1] is reasonably priced at just north of ~$200, it even has luxuries like 2.5gig ethernet and onboard wireless. If you want a DDR5 setup, this ASUS Prime Z690-A[2] is still ~$260 with plenty of luxuries. If you can do without a top-tier chipset…

Post by aix1 » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 1:01 PM UTC

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Buy yourself Apple Care+ for your MBP. No need to baby it.

Apple care+ isn't available everywhere. Here in Poland a basic Air is about 1.5x national average monthly wage and apple won't sell you apple care+ for any apple device(you can only buy regular apple care which is just an extension of original warranty,nothing more). So yes, if I had one I'd also baby it.

Post by vinyl7 » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 1:04 PM UTC

lostmsu wrote: post #171

Dalewyn wrote: post #156

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>motherboards are priced so high Only if you go for the really stupid RGB "gamer" motherboards sprinkled with more fairy dust than sense. Something like this ASUS Prime Z690-P[1] is reasonably priced at just north of ~$200, it even has luxuries like 2.5gig ethernet and onboard wireless. If you want a DDR5 setup, this ASUS Prime Z690-A[2] is still ~$260 with plenty of luxuries. If you can do without a top-tier chipset…

What even is the point of "top-tier" chipsets? Like why would one ever pay extra?

Post by simonh » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 1:07 PM UTC

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Yep, and that’s always been an issue with Apple products: they set their prices in USD, then set the foreign price using conversions from around release date (plus taxes obviously). That means if the dollar was very strong at release, the machines get very expensive in foreign currency.

Which is weird, because barely any part of it is produced in the US. So it's not that their costs are going up. They are just not realizing they are self sabotaging in terms of opportunity costs. If they adjust prices to purchasing power, with at least 30% profit marge, windows laptops and chromebooks would be having crisis talks right about now. People would prefer the Apple stuff, but not at that price. Even if you…

Post by JCharante » Mon, Apr 03, 2023, 1:10 PM UTC

dahfizz wrote: post #134

izacus wrote: post #36

I was just buying a laptop for my family and the prices of MacBooks here in Europe are utterly crazy. The crappiest 8GB RAM (?!) 256SSD M2 Air model is 1650EUR. 1650EUR for a laptop that won't have enough ram to run the browser in two years. The 16GB model is rounded 2000EUR, which was before reserved for a high-end gaming laptops. It's bonkers.

That's crazy. In the USA, $2000 gets a m2 air with 24GB ram and 1TB drive. The cheapest option is $1200. Is there added taxes / tarrifs for the european prices? That's much worse than just the EUR/USD exchange rate.