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Tell HN: I stopped caring about personal development in tech after seeing GPT-4

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Re: Tell HN: I stopped caring about personal development in tech after seeing GPT-4

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Post by ilaksh »

creshal wrote: post #89
ilaksh wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incredibly arrogant, disrespectful, and false. Junior devs who actually write code are beneath you and don't use "analytical thinking" or have to understand processes or dependencies? Ridiculous. GPT-4 can do all of that stuff. Probably as well or better than you. If you think you still are better, can you do it literally for 24 hours a day? How about 3-6 months from now, are you going to become 50-500% faster/better…

> Junior devs who actually write code are beneath you and don't use "analytical thinking" or have to understand processes or dependencies? They're hardly given a chance to do so when all they're getting is tickets to turn design X or API spec Y into code with no allowance given to make it better. Yes, that's not the workflow in all orgs, but there's a lot of organisations where most people aren't expected or allowed…

They were not personal attacks. Just responding to your arrogance and disrespect towards junior developers.

Re: Tell HN: I stopped caring about personal development in tech after seeing GPT-4

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Post by is_true »

crop_rotation wrote: post #36
nprateem wrote: post #6

I wouldn't worry. It's code output is 50% garbage. I'm not in fear of my job. All the hypsters assuming this will destroy lawyers, accountants, doctors etc clearly don't understand correctness isn't something they can just tag on to a prediction machine.

Can you show me sample prompts where GPT4 gives garbage? I am yet to find one.

For example I have tried it at a really simple task and it failed. It cannot generate correct CSS selectors, it makes sense as it doesn't understand specificity (as most humans, haha)

Re: Tell HN: I stopped caring about personal development in tech after seeing GPT-4

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Post by tome »

RivieraKid wrote: post #127
tome wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Thinking about switching to a better paid job and / or starting a side-project that would be able to generate semi-passive income. Are you sure that's possible? If so, why haven't you done so already? Were you deliberately earning less money than you could?

Yes, I'm basically afraid of change, I quite like the current work environment, wage is the only downside.

I see, well, good luck with it!

Re: Tell HN: I stopped caring about personal development in tech after seeing GPT-4

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Post by tome »

IshKebab wrote: post #168
tome wrote: post #119

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> Ok granted it's not especially good at it yet and the bullshitting problem is a real issue, but how long do you think that will remain unsolved? I'm curious why some people seem to think it's going to be solved imminently. The last 1% is always the hardest (by far)!

Because recent progress has been extremely rapid and has crossed the threshold from "this is rubbish" to "woah this actually sort of works!" which is a really big deal. It's already putting people out of jobs.

> Because recent progress has been extremely rapid and has crossed the threshold from "this is rubbish" to "woah this actually sort of works!" which is a really big deal.

Sure, progress has been astonishing, but why does that imply that any given sticking point will be resolved ever, let alone soon?

> It's already putting people out of jobs.

Is it? Who? do you have any references?

Re: Tell HN: I stopped caring about personal development in tech after seeing GPT-4

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Post by tpoacher »

taylodl wrote: post #139

Meh. I thought the same thing when I saw Visual C++ in 1992. It was amazing - it could produce an entire Windows application - a Windows application! - with a few mouse clicks. Add in a little bit of logic and presto! You had a complete Windows application, ready to ship. Many of us thought it was all over for developers. The gold rush was over, we were all going to be out of work in a few short years. How well did t…

idk. i take the point, but this also screams of normalcy bias to me.

just because people didnt become obsolete then doesnt mean that will always be the case.

especially when obsolence through technology more generally isnt even a rare thing

Re: Tell HN: I stopped caring about personal development in tech after seeing GPT-4

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Post by GoldenMonkey »

assembly language > c > c++ > visual basic > javascript > chatgpt

We are just moving up the abstraction hierarchy.

Can you imagine assembly coders and their fears of C making them obsolete.

There is no end to the demand for software. And the demand for smart and competent ppl to create solutions. With the tools at hand.

Move along folks, nothing to see here ;)

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