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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I’m happy to answer questions that folks have on this. There was also an earlier HN thread on our full launch event where we announced 13th Gen Intel Core and AMD Ryzen 7040 Series versions of the Framework Laptop 13, along with a bunch of other stuff: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35277660

An upgradeable GPU is a game changer for laptops. Have you settled on an existing standard like MXM, or a new one?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #165

I’m happy to answer questions that folks have on this. There was also an earlier HN thread on our full launch event where we announced 13th Gen Intel Core and AMD Ryzen 7040 Series versions of the Framework Laptop 13, along with a bunch of other stuff: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35277660

Can you share the screen resolution? I own the 13 but the PPI on that screen makes fractional scaling necessary for me (which doesn't always behave well on Linux/Wayland). I'm wondering if I'll be able to comfortably use integer scaling with the 16. And if you can answer... are any screen replacements with different resolutions in play for the 13 chassis?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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The chin lefts the screen a bit for better ergonomics.

I thought you could have inexpensive laptop stands that also raise the keyboard a bit to the same effect. Try one, they are amazing. And they improve the airflow, too.

I use a laptop stand at my desk, but a laptop chin helps to not bend the neck so much when the laptop is on a… lap.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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It's a pity the keyboard design never seriously improves even for the niche laptops. Like, the space to the sides is useless here, but if you could split the keyboard and move that space to to the middle - well, know you've moved one step closer towards more ergonomic typing! Or better yet, you could move all those pinky keys there so that instead of moving your right pinky to hit backspace you'd just move your right…

We see interesting use cases for the small modules on the left and right as well if you are not some who wants to slide the keyboard to the left and put a numpad on the right.

We’re showing a prototype of an LED Matrix that can be used for low res information display, but other things like a row of extra buttons, a narrow LCD, a capacitive slider, and others are possible too.

As a sibling comment noted, it is also possible for a module developer to create a full width keyboard with a different layout.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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They make money on OS ads now to subsidize the cost

That and no more customer support to pay for. Plus, the consumer prices are probably subsidized by the massive volumes in OEM licenses and O365 subscriptions.

Microsoft never had customer support. If you had a problem you either called your grandson or took it to the local computer repair shop.

Maybe you mean QA testers.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Modular keyboard and QMK! It's a niche within a niche but would absolutely love an ortholinear option to the keyboard e.g. https://deskthority.net/wiki/Planck Though would like this on a smaller laptop, 14-ish inches seem to be the sweet spot.

Jack Humbert (behind both QMK and OLKB) is actually working on an ortholinear keyboard module for the Framework Laptop 16! We had a mockup of it at the event.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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> Since Expansion Bay modules can extend the laptop in both thickness and depth, we have immense design flexibility to handle generation over generation changes in mechanical, thermal, and electrical requirements for GPUs.

How do expansion bay modules change the laptop’s thickness and depth?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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The X1 Carbon has two USB-C, two USB-A, a full-sized HDMI, and a headphone jack. I don't personally feel like the framework 13 needs more than 4 expansion bays, but I'd love to see expansion cards that use Thunderbolt to offer (for instance) two USB-C ports, or a USB-C and a USB-A. (There are some experimental unofficial ones attempting this.) If those were available, my four expansion bays would be one Ethernet, one…

There's been discussion of multi-port cards for a while. The main problem is how many different things you can shove on top of USB-C: - USB 2/3 - Power delivery - DisplayPort[0] - PCI Express - Analog audio - USB4 You need some kind of chip that can negotiate two ports' worth of that nonsense and appropriately multiplex them into the correct set of altmodes on the interior port. Some of them have readily available an…

Thanks for this super detailed and correct response! We are holding our hope that the miracle chip will appear some day to make it possible.

In the meantime, we have seen a community member start developing a Dual USB-C Expansion Card that offers only USB 3.2 functionality without USB-PD. That’s not a card we will build at Framework, so it is awesome to see it coming from the community.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Years using the trackpoint gave me carpal tunnel. Try not to use it exclusively.

Maybe don't generalize your personal experience. Working with almost anything can give you carpal tunnel. Is there any evidence carpal tunnel is more likely then with any other input method?

More anecdotes from me on the input-method to wrist-problems correlation:

I weight train regularly. Lots of forearm tension. I noticed one day that it always hurt more when I was scrolling (using an original Apple Magic Mouse). Brutal repetitive strain injury. However, when I went for periods of time only using the trackpad in my MacBook, my arm would feel

Upon realization, pretty much immediately switched to a trackpad at my desktop as well, and problems went away.

It took about 18 months to get from "my arm really fucking hurts" to "yeah, it was the mouse". People always ask why I use a trackpad at a desktop, I tell this story. I don't remember the last time I used a mouse on my computer.

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