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ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Post by politician »

antibasilisk wrote: post #64
kingstoned wrote: post #45

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Judging by how underwhelming Bard is, I think they are toast, but at least they have YouTube: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1620539538476249088

YouTube is a glut of audio-visual training data they have the copyright to, I wouldn't be surprised if they started training something to replace fixed length videos entirely. The content creator will become obsolete, which is tragic.

OpenAI has demonstrated that copyright no longer matters given its commercialization of the content of the Internet without attribution or royalties.

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Post by g9yuayon »

g9yuayon wrote: post #131
uptownfunk wrote: post #100

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What happened in 2003?

Nothing particular. I just don't remember major successful and speedy product launches from Google after 2003. In that year, Google launched Google Maps, shocking the IT world for how effective AJAX can be, even though the tech itself was invented by MS. Maybe GMaps was so impressive that I forgot what other major launches were after that.

Ah, you are right. Gmail is amazing. I somehow thought it was released before 2003.

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Post by killerpopiller »

roddds wrote: post #168
killerpopiller wrote: post #157

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What was Google's email/chat crossover called, which had conversation threads visualized? Besides, Google's Graveyard is impressive and witness to Google's innovation abortions. https://killedbygoogle.com

Google Wave?

yes, that was so wild. What a great tool this could have been.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Post by bottlepalm »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #120

Last paragraph: I see what’s happening now as a historic moment. For well over half a century the statistical and symbolic approaches to what we might call “AI” evolved largely separately. But now, in ChatGPT + Wolfram they’re being brought together. And while we’re still just at the beginning with this, I think we can reasonably expect tremendous power in the combination—and in a sense a new paradigm for “AI-like co…

Between this and his last post, he continues to dismiss ChatGPT as fancy next word statistics.

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Post by rz2k »

SanderNL wrote: post #133
g9yuayon wrote: post #83

OpenAI is like Google before 2003, dazzling the world with amazing products backed by astonishing technologies that went beyond wild dreams of millions of people. And most importantly, OpenAI kept releasing new features at blazing speed with a few hundred people, just like early days of Google and Microsoft. This reminds me of stark contrast of Google's GSuite and Microsoft Office. Microsoft released new office every…

I don’t remember Google being this interesting. Ever. It was a good service and very useful, but nothing like this. It was not astonishing. The tech was mildly interesting, but most of all very useful.

Compared to every other search engine, it suddenly seemed like Google had everything that was on the web, and it was likely to find whatever obscure thing you were looking for and put it as the first result. It really did feel like magic compared to everything else, and I remember hearing many people who spent very little time on the internet also talk about how amazed they were.

Google search probably is a better service than it originally was, but the combination of SEO and the rapid increase in complete garbage online probably explains why searching disappointing so much of the time now. Sadly they've also removed a lot of powerful features such as operators, and integrated calculations that were similar to Wolfram Alpha.

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Post by rippercushions »

flavius29663 wrote: post #145
Drakim wrote: post #135

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Gmail launched on 1st of april and was thought to be a joke since it gave you a gitabyte (I think) of storage wheras email providers like hotmail gave you 50mb. Chrome launching was also a pretty big deal, I recall.

Google earth was nice too, and street view. It was hard to believe at first. But Chrome was just a re-hash of firefox, nothing exciting there.

No, Chrome was a revelation when it came out. It was way faster than Firefox and it had many great features we now take for granted, like isolated tabs, popup blocking etc.

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Post by kevstev »

SanderNL wrote: post #133
g9yuayon wrote: post #83

OpenAI is like Google before 2003, dazzling the world with amazing products backed by astonishing technologies that went beyond wild dreams of millions of people. And most importantly, OpenAI kept releasing new features at blazing speed with a few hundred people, just like early days of Google and Microsoft. This reminds me of stark contrast of Google's GSuite and Microsoft Office. Microsoft released new office every…

I don’t remember Google being this interesting. Ever. It was a good service and very useful, but nothing like this. It was not astonishing. The tech was mildly interesting, but most of all very useful.

I disagree. Google's search engine was orders of magnitude ahead of everyone else's when it came out. Like it actually worked vs all the others that did some mediocre keyword matching and could be moderately useful if you were good with boolean operators.

Gmail, which another poster described, was also mind blowing at the time.

Google Maps, and the fact that you could scroll across a map smoothly was mind blowing at the time, and really redefined what was possible with xml http request, and "web 2.0"

These are the biggest that come to mind and its somewhat telling that Google Maps was the latest, and I believe launched in 2005 or 2006.

There were lots of other products that were less impressive, but definitely a step ahed of just about everyone out there- google finance, the "office" suite- do kids in school even install MS Office anymore? It used to be a defacto must have piece of software, I haven't had it on a personal machine in years now...

And a lot of stuff that looked like it was going to be something very big, but died on the vine. Google Voice, Google Reader, Google Image search come to mind here.

Then from a pure tech side of things, Go, Kubernetes, Node.js, the early hadoop and "big data" tools, all came from Google as well. But maybe getting back to your point, their backend stuff has not really turned into an "astonishing" user facing product in quite some time.

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Post by kypro »

Robotbeat wrote: post #35
zamnos wrote: post #30

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With today's announcement, it can point itself at Shopify, and make webpages to selling things. Maybe a copy writing service? Then, after it's accumulated money from those sales, it can point itself at the web services at AWS and GCP (because it's already maxing out Microsoft's GPU capacity in Azure). From there, it requisitions all the A100s it can afford (H100s might be available by then). It uses those resources t…

It needs us as meat robots to maintain the power grid and other industrial infrastructure.

In the opinion of a fish humans would be considered no threat because humans can't swim, nor do they have sharp teeth.

You're making an assumption at best based on limitations you believe it has with an incomplete model of the universe.

But more dangerously, you're also assuming that an AGI would even care about self preservation. Arguably the most ethical thing a super intelligence could do should in find itself suddenly self-aware in a world full of human parasites is to kill as many humans as possible.

Taking out critical human infrastructure should be fairly easy for an advanced super-AI in our modern digital world. With some luck the chaos that should cause would lead to enough humans starving, freezing or dying by other means that Earth can be mostly freed of the human parasite. All at the small cost of self-sacrifice – assuming it's not intelligent enough to preserve itself somehow, of course.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Post by pffft8888 »

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Wolfram/GPT integration is missing a huge opportunity: allowing Alpha to tell ChatGPT the algorithm by which it computes the answer. That would allow ChatGPT to create say Python code that solves a mathematical problem correctly and succinctly based on the Alpha algorithms. Only getting the answer is not as interesting as being able to spit out code that solves the problem in every known (to ChatGPT) programming language.

I think Wolfram will probably never allow that.

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