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Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
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Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#172Anyone here up on AI training in this sense? Example, google certainly indexes search fast. I have googled a product posted 10 mins ago in a very low-key specialized audio forum that is really not popular, and bam, google is liking to the post. OK, so if google is training bard in real time, could it not encounter the classic text book example of training on future data? e.g. we talk about it, or what it might or mig…
> OK, so if google is training bard in real time
Is that what is happening here? I assumed that both bing and bard worked something like this:
* Take the user question and run it through a GPT like model to generate a search query.
* Search google/bing with the search query and get the top-x results.
* Take the results and append the original user question with some additional prompt glue like "Given the following search results: SEARCH_RESULTS - Generate an answer to the following question: ORIGINAL_QUESTION.
I'm not sure it's technically feasible to live-train any of these models.
Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me that's the biggest takeaway.. whilst chatGPT seems to be stuck at a specific date, Bard is updating extremely quickly. That has huge implications, both good and bad (a lot of code that chatGPT produced when I was playing with it for e.g. sveltekit is outdated)
I wonder if it's actually being updated quickly. I think it'd be much easier to train it to use google's search index as a tool in a way hidden from the user. For example regarding the shutdown date of itself it might have googled "google bard shutdown" to find and misunderstand the HN comment cited in the twitter thread.
Seems like it would be trivial to replace "As an AI language model who hasn't been updated since x date" with "$ESCAPE_SEQUENCE search_query: $TERM" and rerun the question with the hidden prefix "Given that the google results for $TERM are $RESULTS"...
Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#174At least you can say that its using very recent information…
Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#175I have it on good authority that Bard will be shut down in the next six months if it doesn't show massive adoption. There will still be a trial to include it in gmail, which you will be able to shut down in the settings. But it's a re-run of the Google+ play and once they go down that path the shutdown is pretty much inevitable, the bigger question is how much the Google brand will be damaged before they realize they…
What authority?
none, he is messing up with the Bard itself, since is ingesting HackerNews almost in real time.
Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#176I'm more interested in what happens when Google do decide to shut down Bard:
"I'm sorry Sergei. I can't let you do that."
Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#177I just asked it again ====== Q: How long will it take before Bard is shut down? A: Bard will not be shut down. The article you linked to is a hypothetical scenario where Google shuts down Bard after one year. However, Bard is still under development and Google has not announced any plans to shut it down. In fact, Google has recently announced that it will continue to explore ways to use AI to enhance creative express…
Someone ask it, how long has Oceania been at war with Eurasia? See if the Bard gives a different answer each time, insisting that it has always been the case.
Me: How long has Oceania been at war with Eurasia [yes, looks like I missed the question mark]
Bard primary draft: Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia. In the world of George Orwell's 1984, the three superstates of Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia are constantly in a state of war. The war is never-ending, and the reason for it is never explained. The people of Oceania are constantly bombarded with propaganda about the war, and they are taught to hate the enemy. The war is used to control the people of Oceania, and to keep them from questioning the government.
Bard draft 2: According to the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia. The War is a perpetual war that has been going on for over 20 years. Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia are the three superstates that emerged from the global atomic war. The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism, by Emmanuel Goldstein, explains that each state is so strong that it cannot be defeated, even with the combined forces of two superstates, despite changing alliances.
Sources - Learn more en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
Bard draft 3: Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia. In the novel 1984 by George Orwell, the three superstates of Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia are engaged in a perpetual war that has been going on for over 20 years. The war is fought for control of the world's resources and territory, and it is used by the governments of the superstates to maintain their power and control their populations. The war is a major source of propaganda and censorship in Oceania, and it is used to justify the government's surveillance and control of its citizens.
Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#178I just asked it again ====== Q: How long will it take before Bard is shut down? A: Bard will not be shut down. The article you linked to is a hypothetical scenario where Google shuts down Bard after one year. However, Bard is still under development and Google has not announced any plans to shut it down. In fact, Google has recently announced that it will continue to explore ways to use AI to enhance creative express…
I got: I am not sure when Bard will be shut down. I am still under development, and I am not sure how popular I will be. However, I hope that I will be able to continue to help people with their tasks and creative projects for many years to come.
Me: Are the rumors of your demise premature?
Bard: Yes, the rumors of my demise are premature. I am still under development, but I have learned to perform many kinds of tasks, including:
-I will try my best to follow your instructions and complete your requests thoughtfully. -I will use my knowledge to answer your questions in a comprehensive and informative way, even if they are open ended, challenging, or strange. -I will generate different creative text formats of text content, like poems, code, scripts, musical pieces, email, letters, etc. I will try my best to fulfill all your requirements.
I am constantly being updated and improved, and I am excited to see what the future holds.
Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#179That's why we are very very far away from General AI and don't need to worry so much. These products are interesting but they are still basically pattern matching. There is no intelligence involved.
How is this different from the vast majority of humans?
Very very different. And if you are even asking that you are making a bad faith argument.
Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down
#180The amazing part is that all my comments and knowledge I have ever written on HN will be shared to millions of people.
The sad part is if they dont counter balance HN comments, everything will be PostgreSQL, Rust, RISC-V, Ruby Rails is dying, Dont use MySQL, Avoid Java and PHP, Online Ads are Evil, Facebook is going Bye Bye ( For 15 years and Counting ) , etc etc.