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Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by jodrellblank »

MonkeyClub wrote: post #153

Is this confirmed? TFA 404’s, gandi.net still advertises the two free mailboxes, and I haven’t received any communication from Gandi.

I confirm that I received email from Gandi about it a couple of days ago, which is annoying because that's why I moved from GoDaddy to Gandi. It said:

> "What hasn’t changed over the last 20 years is our commitment to serving you, and we will continue doing that every day. In order to serve you in the best way in the future, we are announcing changes to our pricing policy effective April 6th 2023. [...] To ensure we can maintain the highest standards in the future we will stop free mailboxes beyond the first year, and price it at £2.99 per month for standard mailboxes and £5.99 per month for premium mailboxes and we will expand the e-mail offering with [...] Better anti-spam and anti-virus protection"

(Which I'm sure has nothing to do with the uptick in spam I've been receiving the past month or so).

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by justeleblanc »

judge2020 wrote: post #150
justeleblanc wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm asking because the GGP wrote "better more secure registrar". Since I'm using Gandi right now (and I don't care about their mailbox offer), I wanted to know if it was really insecure.

GGP said hosting, but I think they mean email hosting. Even if you keep your actual registrar account @gmail or anther third-party, it's not recommended to handle your registrar, DNS, and email in the same place, since a compromise of any of them is likely to lead to compromise of the other systems (eg. an attacker gains admin permissions on the website / backend and uses it to reset your email password and download…

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying. The sentence was literally "Transfer the domains over to a better more secure registrar." This is about domain names and registrars and it's implying that Gandi is insecure. Your point about putting your eggs in the same basket is a different point.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by falcolas »

ryandrake wrote: post #156
r3trohack3r wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I live in a society that enforces contracts through a court system. In a functioning society you can’t sell someone a year worth of prepaid car washes and then decide they need to start paying you again 3 months into your contract. Will be interesting to see if this touches the courts and, if so, how it plays out.

Contracts are only as good as the wealth, power, and ability you have to fight in court and ensure they get enforced. Which is why they 1. usually have lopsided boilerplate terms that protect only the powerful party, 2. are usually largely written by the wealthy, powerful corporation, and 3. usually only enforced against the relatively powerless consumer. In the ideal fantasy world, contracts are supposed to be "meet…

Seeing how Nintendo and the courts screwed around with the stick drift class action lawsuit (the parents can’t be in the class since their kids use it, yet the parents were the ones bound by the forced arbitration), and how clickwrap EULAs have become largely accepted as fully binding in courts…

100% this

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by Freak_NL »

VoxPelli wrote: post #131
Freak_NL wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're getting bitten by this in the Netherlands as well. Two domain registrars, PCExtreme and Neostrada, merged with Versio, and Versio is now owned by TWS. My company has domains registered with Versio (and PCExtreme and Neostrada), but the control panel was showing multiple domains wrongly flagged as 'processing', and actually getting through to customer service takes the better part of day by now. I'm not looking…

Any suggestion of a good serious independent European registrar?

I wish I had something useful to recommend now, but we've only just started looking.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by ipaddr »

duiker101 wrote: post #122
KingOfCoders wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.

Suggestions for service B? Every single service I can find always seems such a pain to go in and add a subdomain and change something.

Digitalocean.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by janosdebugs »

Animats wrote: post #141

Now I need to move all my domains away from Gandi. And I'm paid for years in advance. Any recommendations?

Check your domain expiration in the whois. For most registries, the domain should keep its expiry, but you would need to pay one year extra when moving them.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by PaulKeeble »

behringer wrote: post #163
SahAssar wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For email it is sometimes useful to only have a host handling things like reputation and crypto/protocols (DKIM, SPF, DMARC, DANE, MTA-STS, etc.) while doing the actual handling of data yourself. I'm not sure that gandi's email fits that purpose, but specifically for email it can be a bit more tricky to roll your own than things like HTTPS, so having a hosted solution to handle that can help.

Pretty sure gandi doesn't do much of the above either. Gandi email hosting is generally not worth paying for.

As a bundled service it was fine, I have a complete copy of my emails on my client(s) anyway so what it really did was give an IMAP interface to use for sending and receiving emails under my domain that dealt with the entire "Google et el are pretty evil about personal email boxes".

Its not worth £3 a month per box when previously the Gandi markup was £4 a year or so for the extra services on top of the raw domain price.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by rascul »

duiker101 wrote: post #122
KingOfCoders wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.

Suggestions for service B? Every single service I can find always seems such a pain to go in and add a subdomain and change something.

https://dns.he.net

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ryandrake wrote: post #156
r3trohack3r wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I live in a society that enforces contracts through a court system. In a functioning society you can’t sell someone a year worth of prepaid car washes and then decide they need to start paying you again 3 months into your contract. Will be interesting to see if this touches the courts and, if so, how it plays out.

Contracts are only as good as the wealth, power, and ability you have to fight in court and ensure they get enforced. Which is why they 1. usually have lopsided boilerplate terms that protect only the powerful party, 2. are usually largely written by the wealthy, powerful corporation, and 3. usually only enforced against the relatively powerless consumer. In the ideal fantasy world, contracts are supposed to be "meet…

> when I think of "contract" today, I immediately think "weapon used by a company to beat up a consumer"

This view is unsupported by the facts in all competent jurisdictions. It’s a convenient one, however, for certain people to spread.

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