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Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by Quarrelsome »

93po wrote: post #167
Orangeair wrote: post #140

Surreal to me to see how many people in this thread and trying to steer the conversation towards whether or not the firing was justified based on his job performance. What the actual fuck does it matter? In what world is it okay to fire someone without communication and then publically mock them like Elon did here? I'm truly unable understand the willingness some people have to jump to the defense of billionaires.

Elon isn't mocking him - the employee made this public and Elon is defending his choice to fire him. It's interesting how Halli doesn't actually defend that he did any work, because it's clear he didn't. Instead he's tweeting "Let me know if you are going to pay what you owe me?" at Elon, which is only furthering Elon's stance that this dude is looking for a payday and went to publicly smear Elon to bully him into pa…

> Elon isn't mocking him

he posted an office space meme in response to him sarcastically.

> It's interesting how Halli doesn't actually defend that he did any work, because it's clear he didn't.

and that is a spurious reach.

Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by [deleted] »

nonethewiser wrote: post #101
danso wrote: post #81

To build a world-renowned web design firm based in Iceland (population 370k, barely bigger than Cincinnati, Ohio) is pretty astounding. Looking at the beautiful "coming soon" homepage [0] he presumably built for his restaurant (which is named after his mom [1]), I can see why he was well-respected in the field [0] https://annajona.is/ [1] https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1633109753890058242

> Looking at the beautiful "coming soon" homepage [0] he presumably built for his restaurant (which is named after his mom [1]), I can see why he was well-respected in the field Its literally just a pink background for me. Not sure if I'm missing something or if that's the joke. I'm not familiar with him and assume he's a great designer. I dont understand the reference here though.

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Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by cody_coconuts »

starik36 wrote: post #90
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s one thing to decide that someone’s role is no longer necessary at a company. It’s business, things change, no role is guaranteed to exist forever. But firing someone without communication and with HR unable to confirm it is just low. Mocking them on Twitter for their well-documented physical disability is just abhorrent. This could have been a completely different exchange if the response was a simple “Sorry for…

What was the actual "mock"? I don't see it in the sea of tweets.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632915881499176960

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633159188787658757

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/11kzn5v

Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by kentm »

93po wrote: post #158
toss1 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, when just a simple trivial response would do. Either no reply & cc:HR, or "Yup, HR should get on this". With that kind of money and power, the #1 or #2 richest person in the world, you can afford to be extremely gracious and self-effacing. And it is good for your wealth. Instead, Elon chooses to make a public show of being a smug, petty, abusive, asshat. What an impoverished emotional weakling is on display here…

Elon didn't make this public, the (independently very wealthy) employee did that.

The employee tried to confirm the firing, which is relevant to his contract, privately with HR. After getting no response, he asked Elon about his employment and contract status publicly as a last-ditch effort. Instead of answering the question, Elon tried to pivot into talking about the guy's work in order to save face publicly. That part of it is on Elon, not on the employee in question.

Its incredible to me how people are burying the lede here to somehow rehabilitate Musk's disastrous response.

Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by mrxd »

silvestrov wrote: post #88
mediaman wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's true of any large company. There are many people not doing anything. Simply because of the number of employees, and the manner in which large companies tend to stop focusing on outcomes. That doesn't mean most were not doing anything, but "most" is not the word used in the comment to which yours replies.

aka Price’s Law: Why Only A Few People Generate Half Of The Results https://medium.com/darius-foroux/prices-law-why-only-a-few-p...

This is true in the entertainment industry, but it's because consumers want to buy what everyone else is buying. Not because there's a huge difference in performance. In fact, it's the opposite. There are many equally attractive/talented performers who can do the job just as well. It's very competitive, success is rare and fleeting even when it does come.

This translates into other parts of the economy. High income households experience high income volatility, consistent with the hypothesis that there is lots of competition at the highest levels of success—not very little competition.

Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by hintymad »

the_only_law wrote: post #112
hintymad wrote: post #80

[flagged]

> If we get the answer, shouldn't we ask if Twitter is wrong to fire a disabled person if he didn't do his job? I would assume that would be dependent on said answer, but you weren’t actually trying to propose a real question were you…

I was. I don't have answers and I recognize that labor dispute can be nuanced, hence my questions.

Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by 93po »

mschuster91 wrote: post #153
mustacheemperor wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disappointing to see they were flagged, but moreso to see the apparent ratio between downvotes and negative comments on those threads. Apparently a large subset of the community felt those posts should be removed from the front page, but didn’t feel obliged to explain why. It’s like Elon is becoming a radioactive element for this community’s health too. Edit: This submission also briefly showed as flagged sometime in…

People are sick and tired about constant news about Musk's latest crap antics, just like with Trump - basically, at least here in Europe, you can't go to bed and wake up without yet another newsflash of either a large Twitter outage or Elon Musk shitposting again. I get why people are exhausted, but the desensitization is dangerous on its own - when there are no consequences, people escalate their behavior... and Mus…

> Musk already has intervened to make Starlink less usable for Ukraine.

and here you are perpetuating the fake shit about Elon that gets everyone engaged. Elon doesn't want Starlink to be directly used on weapons to kill people. Would you also fault the World Nuclear Association for being willing to provide uranium to power Ukraine, but refusing to provide the same material for nuclear bombs? He has a right to determine whether he wants his technology to be used directly for offensive war efforts. He is still providing Starlink for general military operations and communications. He just doesn't want it directly enabling weapons.

Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by finikytou »

nemo44x wrote: post #150
fabian2k wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling the disability "an excuse" for someone with muscular dystrophy that sits in a wheel chair could arguably meet that description.

I think you are mischaracterizing it. He said the guys says his disability prevents him from typing even though he tweets all day. Not saying Musk is correct here, but he didn't say what you are implying.

we all know you are right. even the people that will tell you the contrary. and we all know that if it was Biden saying that rather than Elon that will be on page 10 of google search and in 0 newspaper . this is how it works now. once you are filed as bad by the media there's no way back.

Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by jyscao »

RivieraKid wrote: post #102
ajmurmann wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching Elon makes me think about the things for which a large portion of the public made fun of Jack Dorsey. Regular meditation, month-long meditation retreats and emphasis on regular exercise or alternative measures are probably needed to keep operating at that level. I know I get in a much worse mental state without physical exercise and journaling or meditation.

The main reason why Elon is like this is that he's on the psychopathy spectrum. Meditation could perhaps improve his ability to keep the mask on, but it wouldn't change who he is.

>he's on the psychopathy spectrum

Can't say if he's on the psychopathy spectrum or not, but he has admitted to be on the autistic spectrum, and I think that alone must be enough of a hinderance to running a social medial company.

Re: Haraldur Thorleifsson's Personal Site

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Post by dyno12345 »

93po wrote: post #158
toss1 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, when just a simple trivial response would do. Either no reply & cc:HR, or "Yup, HR should get on this". With that kind of money and power, the #1 or #2 richest person in the world, you can afford to be extremely gracious and self-effacing. And it is good for your wealth. Instead, Elon chooses to make a public show of being a smug, petty, abusive, asshat. What an impoverished emotional weakling is on display here…

Elon didn't make this public, the (independently very wealthy) employee did that.

here "wealthy" is a dig on the employee
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