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Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by visarga »

srslack wrote: post #164

I find myself missing the golden age of Google, where it actually returned results and answers that you wanted, on subjects you were looking for. Even now, versus two years ago, I tried finding a snippet of a notice in a newspaper with specifics about a name change someone petitioned in California. I found it then, and had bookmarked it, but trying to find it again just turns up absolute garbage, thankfully I found t…

> The "intelligence" exhibited emergent from language itself, from the massive dataset it has trawled.

I concur. Intelligence does not come from the transformer architecture, or any specific of the model. It comes from the language corpus. Human intelligence too, except for physical stuff. All our advanced skills come from language.

You take 300GB of text and put it through a randomly initialised transformer and you get chatGPT. You immerse a baby in human language, it becomes a modern adult, with all our abilities. Without language, and that includes other humans and tech, we'd be just weaker apes.

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Post by rootusrootus »

jameshart wrote: post #96
glomgril wrote: post #72

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Hopefully so, would really like to know what else is lost by nerfing potentially offensive responses. Can't imagine a project I'd rather work on. I think open-assistant.io has a chance to do exactly this. We'll see what kind of moves they make in coming months though, wouldn't be surprised if they go the safer route.

I do struggle with understanding why people think this is strangling the potential of GPT. Do you find yourself frustrated working with your colleagues, thinking, “you know, I bet if they felt more free to utter racist slurs or endorse illegal activities, we would get a ton more done around here”?

> Do you find yourself frustrated working with your colleagues, thinking, “you know, I bet if they felt more free to utter racist slurs or endorse illegal activities, we would get a ton more done around here”?

I once visited Parler just to see what it was like, and pretty quickly found that the answer to your question seems to be yes. There are definitely people who feel they need that kind of dialog in their life. You might not think it was necessary in a random conversation about programming or something, but it turns out that isn't a universally held position.

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Post by refulgentis »

anonylizard wrote: post #42
krelian wrote: post #33

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I thought it was Midjourney who stole their thunder. Stable Diffusion is free but it's much harder to get good results with it. Midjourney on the other hand spits out art with a very satisfying style.

You are like 2 months out of date. Stable diffusion now has a massive ecosystem around it (civitai/automatic1111), that when used well, completely crushes any competitors in terms of the images it produces. Midjourney is still competitive, but mostly because its easier to use. Dalle2 will get you laughed out of the room in any ai art discussion.

This isn’t as true as it sounds, ex. stable diffusion can do better but requires in depth practice and experience.

For your average user, DallE is easy, MJ is fairly disorienting, and SD requires a technical background. I agree with you completely no one serious is doing art with DallE.

I would have said same as you until I tried integrating SD vs. DallE APIs, I desparately want SD because it’s easily 1/10th the cost, but it misses the point much more often. Probably gonna ship it anyway :X

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Post by GaggiX »

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #124
anonylizard wrote: post #42

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You are like 2 months out of date. Stable diffusion now has a massive ecosystem around it (civitai/automatic1111), that when used well, completely crushes any competitors in terms of the images it produces. Midjourney is still competitive, but mostly because its easier to use. Dalle2 will get you laughed out of the room in any ai art discussion.

Do you have any recently updated examples, blog posts, whatever showing that DALLE is worse than modern stable diffusion? I was still under the impression that DALLE was better (with better meaning the images are more likely to be what you asked for, more lifelike, more realistic, not necessarily artistically pleasing), with the downside of it being locked away and somewhat expensive. And my understanding is that sta…

People usually still use SD v1.5 because of the experience that people have with finetuning and merging with it. Also a lot of LoRA are trained for v1.4/1.5 models and they wouldn't work with v2.1, of course you also have incredible capability to control the generation with SD and this helps, to see some result: https://youtu.be/AlSCx-4d51U

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Post by andrewmunsell »

chirau wrote: post #170

ELI5 What is a token? Is it a word, question, letter, what? If I ask a question like... What is the capital of Canada? And it responds with 'Ottawa', how many tokens have I used there and how are they calculated?

Roughly speaking, words or word parts. Open AI has an explainer:

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-...

You can also check your input using their tokenizer: https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer

So, your example is ~9 tokens

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Post by skybrian »

rvz wrote: post #70
polygamous_bat wrote: post #4

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> I have no idea how OpenAI can make money on this. This has to be a loss-leader to lock out competitors before they even get off the ground. The worst thing that can happen to OpenAI+ChatGPT right now is what happened to DallE 2, a competitor comes up with an alternative (even worse if it's free/open like Stable Diffusion) and completely undercuts them. Especially with Meta's new Llama models outperforming GPT-3, it…

I have been saying this since the release of Stable Diffusion that OpenAI is going to struggle as soon as competitors release their models as open source especially when it surpasses GPT-3 and GPT-4. This is why OpenAI is rushing to bring their costs down and to make it close to free, However, Stable Diffusion is leading the race to the bottom and is already at the finish line, since no-one else would release their m…

Stable Diffusion isn’t free if you include the cost of the machine. Maybe you already have the hardware for some other reason, though?

To compare total cost of ownership for a business, you need to compare using someone else’s service to running a similar service yourself. There’s no particular reason to assume OpenAI can’t do better at running a cloud service.

Maybe someday you can assume end users have the hardware to run this client side, but for now that would limit your audience.

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Post by j45 »

zamnos wrote: post #132
j45 wrote: post #120

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Thee would be less friction to switch if the implementations (which are early enough) accounted for sending requests to multiple service providers including ones that don't exist yet. OpenAI has a view few do - how broadly this type of product is actually being used. This is possibly the real lead to not just getting ahead, and staying ahead, but seeing ahead.

And also, what people are actually asking it. Are people using it to generate cover letters and resume help, or are they doing analysis of last quarters numbers, or are they getting programming help. That'll help them figure out what areas to focus on for later models, or areas to create specialized models for.

Yup. Moreover this type of model will only do certain types of things well, and other types of models will do other things much better.
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