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> I called them dorks affectionately Never in my life have I seen that word used affectionately
As one of the unsupervised dorks working on LLMs at Meta (not one of the authors here) I took it in a positive way :)
LLaMA: A foundational, 65B-parameter large language model
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Re: LLaMA: A foundational, 65B-parameter large language model
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone needs to start a pirate bay for torrents of ML models. Call it ClosedAI, since in AI land these words mean the opposite of what they say.
> since in AI land these words mean the opposite of what they say. Huh. I think you just might be right: OpenAI that isn't open, AI safety/ethics "researchers" that have nothing to do with safety or ethics, almost every answer chatGPT gives about a topic considered "sensitive" by said "researchers", almost every time ChatGPT falsely asserts it "cannot" do something or simply lies (1). I often wonder why this field be…
Re: LLaMA: A foundational, 65B-parameter large language model
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If you’re going to ask an AI to do fact checking with today’s technology, I would urge you to start by asking the AI a simple test question: Which is heavier? A pound of feathers or two pounds of lead?
Do you have an explanation for why it fails on this question?
ChatGPT: "One pound of feathers and two pounds of lead weigh the same, which is one pound or 16 ounces. The difference is in their volume, where a pound of feathers takes up more space than two pounds of lead. This is because the density of feathers is much less than that of lead, so even though the weight is the same, the amount of space they occupy is quite different."
Re: LLaMA: A foundational, 65B-parameter large language model
#174Newbie asks: what is a 'parameter' here
Re: LLaMA: A foundational, 65B-parameter large language model
#175"we are publicly releasing LLaMA" "Access to the model will be granted on a case-by-case basis to academic researchers" They keep saying the word 'release' but I don't think they know what that word means. There are perfectly good words in the English language to describe this situation without abusing "release." They "will begin to grant access to a select few". Nothing about that releases the model, or their contro…
Someone needs to start a pirate bay for torrents of ML models. Call it ClosedAI, since in AI land these words mean the opposite of what they say.
Re: LLaMA: A foundational, 65B-parameter large language model
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> We release all our models to the research community. This is yet more evidence for the "AI isn't a competitive advantage" thesis. State-of-the-Art is a public resource, so competing with AI offers no "moat".
In terms of medieval warfare, what Facebook is doing here looks like filling the moat with rocks and dirt. OpenAI is worth billions, Microsoft is spending billions to retrofit most of their big offerings with AI, Google is doubtless also spending billions to integrate AI in their products. Their moat in all cases is “a blob of X billion weights trained on Y trillion tokens”. Facebook here is spending mere _millions_…
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#177Funny how the release has a note that the models clearly have ethical problemas that must be addressed, and still the company chooses to publish it.
Ethical problems that they don’t purge it of Wrong Think? Why people care that a dodgy AI can be made to say politically incorrect things is beyond me. Don’t use its outputs for anything important and everything will be alright.
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>* 65B model's performance is broadly comparable to PALM-540B. Not a small feat, but also could indicate the benefits of good model-vs-token size ratios [Tables 3,4,5,6]. Their conjecture for underperforming on MMLU (multitask language understanding) compared to PALM-540B and Chinchilla-70B is smaller fraction of books and academic training data.* what do you mean by this ? The OpenAI papers talk roughly about model…
Scaling law is for training till convergence. Both PALM and this model have been undertrained. See the training loss plot in the paper.
umm...so does OpenAI. In fact this is OpenAI discovery from [1]:
>Convergence is inefficient: When working within a fixed compute budget C but without any other restric- tions on the model size N or available data D, we attain optimal performance by training very large models and stopping significantly short of convergence (see Figure 3). Maximally compute-efficient training would therefore be far more sample efficient than one might expect based on training small models to convergence, with data requirements growing very slowly as D ∼ C0.27 with training compute. (Section 6)
>We have also tested our models on a set of additional text data distributions. The test loss on these datasets as a function of model size is shown in Figure 8; in all cases the models were trained only on the WebText2 dataset. We see that the loss on these other data distributions improves smoothly with model size, in direct parallel with the improvement on WebText2. We find that generalization depends almost exclusively on the in-distribution validation loss, and does not depend on the duration of training or proximity to convergence. We also observe no dependence on model depth (see Appendix D.8)
P.S. Not trolling. genuinely trying to learn.
Re: LLaMA: A foundational, 65B-parameter large language model
#179Quick notes from first glance at paper https://research.facebook.com/publications/llama-open-and-ef... : * All variants were trained on 1T - 1.4T tokens; which is a good compared to their sizes based on the Chinchilla-metric. Code is 4.5% of the training data (similar to others). [Table 2] * They note the GPU hours as 82,432 (7B model) to 1,022,362 (65B model). [Table 15] GPU hour rates will vary, but let's give a ra…
I hate when people don't include approximation for traning before final hyperparameters are found as its most costly part of whole process most of the time. Just yes we train it for so long etc. but they never speak about tens or even hundres of runs before they finalize the model parameters and architecture -.-
Re: LLaMA: A foundational, 65B-parameter large language model
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have an explanation for why it fails on this question?
Why assume it fails? ChatGPT: "One pound of feathers and two pounds of lead weigh the same, which is one pound or 16 ounces. The difference is in their volume, where a pound of feathers takes up more space than two pounds of lead. This is because the density of feathers is much less than that of lead, so even though the weight is the same, the amount of space they occupy is quite different."
As for why it fails, it is likely a bias arising from the question being way more commonly asked in the corpus with equal mass than with distinct mass, increasing attention weights towards an answer expressing equality.
I believe current LLMs lack some common sense at an architectural level. They learn both specialized facts and general deduction in the same weights class: in my mind, they should separate their world model from their instance model.