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Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by greenhearth »

echelon wrote: post #138
kodah wrote: post #134

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This follows the form, hype, and presentation of so many crypto pitches I've heard.

Crypto didn't do anything. AI can give anyone the power to make music, art, film, and media without the time, talent, and institutional capital investments. AI can automate people's jobs and reduce cost structures to accomplishing work and business objectives. That's the difference, and the evaluation criteria is easily decided by the free market. Did it do a good job? Will it get hired again to repeat similar work?…

I enjoy your optimism and excitement, but as Joseph Weizenbaum puts it, this is most certainly the proverbial solution looking for a problem.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by greenhearth »

ux-app wrote: post #40
gwoolhurme wrote: post #33

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While I don't disagree with you largely. What a really nasty way to say it no? It's true a lot of what happens is boilerplate API calls and copy pasting of solved problems. AI is making that happen a lot faster, however the parent comment also has some good points. If you work for a large company most of your day is spent understanding domain specific problems then executing on that. It would be nice to see something…

>If you work for a large company most of your day is spent understanding domain specific problems then executing on that. ... which involves fetching some data, displaying it, maybe doing some basic arithmetic and then shuffling it off to a DB? drudgery. bring the machines on so we don;t have to deal with this nonsense any more.

This is fun for me, not drudgery. Painting the garage sounds like a hellish nightmare. Maybe they could automate that someday, so I can be free to move pixels around.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by shrimpx »

pixl97 wrote: post #51
shrimpx wrote: post #29

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I mean, that's been the trend line of every paradigm, hasn't it? Quality & craftsmanship being sacrificed to scale & automation. I'd say the good part of AI coding is the democratization of programming. It'll be shittier than hand-crafted stuff but more broadly available and empowering more people to make their own stuff.

Handcrafted nails were better than machine made ones? I'm not sure it's easy to make sweeping statements like this and generally needs to be looked at a case by case basis.

Btw handcrafted nails is indeed a niche upscale market.

But I agree that some things are highest quality or feasible to build only when mass produced, like semiconductors.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by krainboltgreene »

ux-app wrote: post #42
krainboltgreene wrote: post #35

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> give it a rest mate. Most coding is garbage generic gluing of boilerplate and API calls. I think that says a lot more about the code you perceive than it does about what coding happens in the world.

for every programmer working on cutting edge creative/systems/math heavy code there are 1000 gluing APIs and tapping out glorified CRUD apps. let's not pretend it's otherwise.

This sounds like every developer I've met who has never had a job at a company last longer than 6 months.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by krainboltgreene »

8note wrote: post #86
krainboltgreene wrote: post #35

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> give it a rest mate. Most coding is garbage generic gluing of boilerplate and API calls. I think that says a lot more about the code you perceive than it does about what coding happens in the world.

Most code is glue. However, that doesn't mean it isn't interesting for data modelling. I'm very excited to have most of the generic parts automated away

But you don't have that. At best you have a model for generating text that looks a lot like a blog post.

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Post by gcanyon »

Towaway69 wrote: post #154
gcanyon wrote: post #128

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What would you use to replace the 4 wheels? To the point, cars still have 4 wheels for the same reason wagons had four wheels before cars existed: 3 wheels are much less stable, 5 adds significant complexity, and nothing other than wheels would be as efficient.

Hoover crafts, helicopters, planes, ... all have no wheels (for transportation). I wasn't meaning to be specific about the 4 wheels, I was trying to point out that innovation happens when necessity makes it necessary - why do we have batteries in cars even though the very first cars[1] were electric? [1]= April 1881 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_electric_vehicl...

>>> Ironically cars have basically not changed since the 1900s: 4 wheels, a steering wheel and a polluting oil-based engine.

>> What would you use to replace the 4 wheels

> Hover crafts, helicopters, planes

None of those are "cars"

Computer technology has not been capable of self-driving until now. Some would say it still isn't.

Likewise, battery tech has been practically useless for cars for over 80% of the time cars have existed. Sure, electric vehicles held the land speed record in 1899 -- when the record was 105km/hour. The practical range of an electric vehicle was less than 100 miles as recently as what, fifteen years ago?

In the past 100 years the top speed of everyday vehicles has increased by 2-3 times, the mileage has doubled, and vehicle comfort, safety, and reliability have increased by an insane amount. To say that no progress has been made is absurdly mistaken.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by gwern »

mike_hock wrote: post #143
beepbooptheory wrote: post #23

Appreciate the effort but these demos have really quickly become so boring. If you can design an entire website with the AI tools, it appears its almost certainly a website you don't need to create in the first place. Either it has already essentially been made by somebody who actually understood and cared about the code, or it's such a trivial mix of stuff you're better off making a squarespace site or whatever. At…

I love how every person on the VR website is wearing a completely different headset. It's just haphazardly throwing together vague associations of "VR." It doesn't understand anything. It's an amazing achievement of AI research, but we're not anywhere close to AI replacing humans in any kind of engineering discipline. A giant leap for AI but a step backward for man. We're gonna see code quality decline due to people…

He could've made it the same headset using one of the standard tools for defining a specific object to get consistency across images (Textual Inversion, DreamBooth, hypernetworks, LoRA etc etc). I'm sure Midjourney supports something for that purpose, he just didn't use it.
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