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If it ain't broke
I personally knew someone who drank himself to death, literally. I've heard from reliable sources of quite a few others who did the same, so I reckon it's broke.
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Ask any dermatologist and they'll absolutely tell you to protect yourself from the sun.
Solar radiation is group 1 carcinogen Literally the light from the Sun is in the same group of tobacco and asbestos So unless you live in a cave, you're exposed to it constantly. Paracelsus knew it already a long time ago: dosis sola facit venenum (only the dose makes the poison)
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I didn’t say outlaw it. Cigarettes are not outlawed. Let’s change the peer pressure around drinking like we did with cigarettes
"Let’s change the peer pressure around drinking like we did with cigarettes." This is precisely what I was referring to. If peer pressure to use [ insert substance here ] is wrong; the antithesis is wrong too.
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I personally knew someone who drank himself to death, literally. I've heard from reliable sources of quite a few others who did the same, so I reckon it's broke.
Even if you ignore those more extreme cases, alcohol is also a contributor to the obesity epidemic in Western countries.
I'm very much open to complete drug legalisation but when I see the stupidity with which we treat the drug ethanol it makes me wonder.
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Yeah calling 1.5L/w 'light moderate' it's a stretch But anyway, I always take such research with a grain of salt (or maybe with a glass of wine) because alcohol consumption has personal relationship benefits Also not discounting the possibility that it's another "fat is bad" craze
I have always given the research credit that it may just be highly counter intuitive but it has always seemed rather obvious that drinking poison is not part of optimal longevity. The least shocking thing is for new research to come out claiming no amount of poison is good for you. I quite enjoy drinking a few times a year but pushing 50 there is nothing that makes me feel as bad as even a few beers the night before…
That "poison" is present in fruits, and there is even evidence that we have evolved to eat fermented foods, containing said substance (which doesn't get metabolized in the best way, sure, but not in the worse way neither).
UV rays are also "poison" and also essential to normal life. Oxygen is literally toxic to several life forms on earth.
Other "poisons" present in food are cyanide for example. Vitamin A is also very damaging at high quantities.
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in the same group you'll find solar radiation (yes, literally the Sun light), UVs (A,B and C), X-ray and many other substances and/or radiations we are exposed to on a daily basis. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IARC_group_1_Carcinogens
I've known people who died from skin cancer and who died from late term alcoholism with pancreatic cancer. I guess dosage matters, even though the effect would be daily available.
A lot of people that die of cancer never drank a sip of alcohol or smoked a cigarette.
Alcohol increases the risk factor, but it's not like tobacco, alcohol is correlated to an increase of breast cancer and oral cavity cancer at maximum 20-25% more. 20-25% means 1.2-1.25 times, tobacco increases the risk 2,000-2,500% which means 20-25 times.
If you look at the stats in my country for oral cavity tumor, men risk (of getting it, survival rate after 5 years is over 60%) is 6 / 100,000, women risk is at 2.2/100,000. So a woman drinking heavily will see her risk go up to 2.75, which is still half the risk of men.
That's the kind of risk we are talking about here.
In perspective, if it was about tobacco the risk would go up from 2.2 to 55. A bit different, isn't it?
People react to these headlines in the wrong way: they confuse "risk increases" with "certain death". It's not like that, still a lot of cancer patients had a completely normal almost risk free life and we don't know why they got it, the only thing for sure is that it ran into their families. That's the biggest risk of them all.
And do not forget that age is a big risk factor too, one of the biggest.
Back to oral cavity cancer: in my Country average age of the diagnosis is 64, 95% of them are diagnosed after the age of 40.
Something to take into account, I think.
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UV too. So basically direct exposure to Sun light should be avoided. edit: UV do cause DNA damage, so following the same logic, no amount of Sun light can be considered safe. Which is true, but the effects are usually negligible, so, as usual, common sense is your best friend.
We need sun light for our health (vitamin D synthesis, for example).
some studies have concluded that
Regular moderate drinkers are less likely to get kidney stones -- 41% less likely for those who drink beer, 33% for wine drinkers
Alcohol consumption is associated with reduced risk of Type 2 diabetes and autoimmune diabetes in adults: results from the Nord-Trøndelag health study (one of the leading causes of death in USA, for example)
It's not black and white, we can't keep going to "war" with stuff, like the "war on drugs", it's not smart.
Absolutism is the enemy of good reasoning.
There are many other factors involved in people drinking or eating things that aren't completely safe long term, it doesn't mean people are suicidal, it means people like to enjoy good things in life even though some of them are not completely risk free.
Going on a hike is not risk free, no amount of hiking has zero risks associated with it.
Hell, the fireplace emits carcinogens similar to those found in tobacco and burnt pizza crust is associated to higher risk of getting cancer!
So let's not be hysterical.