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Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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This is part of an ongoing conflict between schools and parents.

E.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/22/us/gender-identity-studen...

While banning books is creepy and unproductive, the schools have exceeded their warrant and it's no surprise that the pendulum is swinging back.

Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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There were some books that some segment of voters didn't approve of that certain school libraries were providing. This seems like a backdoor way to stop that while bypassing having to go through controversial school board meetings and/or 1A constitutionality issues to block those books. Not to say this isn't insane, just explaining how I think it happened.

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I oppose “progressive” censorship just as much.

Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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If anybody thinks this is a good idea, I'm looking forward to reading your opinions.

Let me be clear that I do not agree at all, in any way with this argument, I'm just answering your question as to what the opinion of people who like this think. There are books which contain explicit depictions of sex between teenagers. Why do you want teenagers thinking that having sex before you are 18 is normal? Kids shouldn't be reading stuff about sex (gay, straight, or otherwise) before they are adults. The on…

There’s nothing magical about the age 18. The age of consent in many states is lower. Hell, the age at which you can join the military is lower.

People under 18 have sex all the time, and they should absolutely be reading stuff about sex before then.

Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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It also drives families with kids out of Florida to more sane educational operating environments. Florida already has the worst teacher shortage in the nation: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/01/22/our-child...

They've even allowed veterans to teach without credentials for up to 5 years (while working on a degree and teaching certificate): https://www.reuters.com/world/us/amid-us-teacher-shortage-fl...

If you can fix a M2A2 Bradley, you’re qualified to teach calculus?

I’m not sure I follow.

Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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There were some books that some segment of voters didn't approve of that certain school libraries were providing. This seems like a backdoor way to stop that while bypassing having to go through controversial school board meetings and/or 1A constitutionality issues to block those books. Not to say this isn't insane, just explaining how I think it happened.

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> equally dystopian agenda they’re pushing on kids

Please elaborate.

Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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> If the book is available in the district libraries, that means it was approved by a media specialist and can be made available to students again. But any book not currently held in the district libraries must be individually evaluated and approved by a librarian. So... It's an allowlist and not a denylist. Even worse.

This is such a great hacker news observation about this ;)

Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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Can someone provide book titles that are affected by this...?

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/09/19/here-are-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Tango_Makes_Three

- https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-school-district-bans-...

Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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Progressives are not responsible for the actions their opponents choose to take, or the justifications they use when taking them.

Yeah, I thought the GOP was all about freedom?

That hasn’t been the case since Lincoln died.

(Not that the other party is much better)

Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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Hey America, is everything okay down there? Y'all have some truly dystopian stuff going on there. Felony prosecution for showing kids books that the Governor didn't approve of? Yikes.

Can I correctly surmise that you're Canadian? If so, your leader declared a national emergency to squash free speech, banished handguns so you can no longer protect yourself, and cut off political opponents from the financial system. Trying to control the books children can view in an educational environment seems trivial by comparison.

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Re: Unapproved books now a felony in Manatee County schools

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I disagree with the assertion that destroying public education is a right-wing goal. While there may be some individuals or groups with that belief, it is not a universally held position among those who identify as right-wing. Additionally, making it a crime to teach is not a tactic that is being used by any mainstream political group or party. Education is an important issue that affects the future of society and sh…

But they are politicising it and using it for political gain. They are making it a crime. Anyone who still votes for these people finds these things at least acceptable.
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