Salesforce, but for Dating
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#174A lot of dunking going on in here, and fairly so, if nothing else because there is no good business model for an app like this unless they build it into dating apps (who's going to manually enter data from Tinder into this thing?). But the dunking seems to overlook the genuine problems with modern dating that didn't exist in the past. I find that it's very easy to mindlessly swipe a thousand people on an app and sudd…
This problem is solved in a culture where friends and family suggest matchups. Of course, this requires a decent and somewhat large network in the first place, but each agent is incentivized to show matches that are somewhat in each other’s leagues (for the agent’s reputation), and each single person is incentivized to not burn their reputation in the network so they avoid churning through possible matches in pursuit of a “better” match.
You also get a somewhat reasonable background check via the agent proposing a possible match since they might have a cursory knowledge of the proposed match’s history and family and whatnot.
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#175Still not entirely certain this isn't just a really impressive parody, but for my sanity I am hoping it is. I think this says a lot about the "attention economy" way all the various dating and social apps take up your time to use them, and how we've digitized the process so much that people unironically see the appeal of a CRM system for managing contacts. Classic case of "new tech to solve the problems of all the ot…
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#177My pseudocode:
- Dress up, show up, shut up. Collared shirt, clean jeans. Be on time. Ask person questions, and listen. The bar is incredibly low for men.
- Same bar, same time. xyz @ 7pm. This means a bad one goes to MAYBE 8/830, and you're out. If you're an adult by yourself, this means you have time to run your life when 5 out of 7 days in a week are dates. You can still workout, make a food, clean your place.
- Guy makes the plans, decisiveness puts you head and shoulders over other possibilities. Interest is everything. It's in the delivery: "I know a really great cocktail bar where we can chat more, xyz @ 7pm on wednesday sound good to you?" Don't waste their time, get to the meet!
- Drinks over dinner every time. Mocktails are fine. Activity date is fine too, but remember you don't know each other. If it turns out to be a bust you are now stuck (looking at you dinner!). You can always say: "Hey I'm feeling kind of hungry how about you? I know xyz spot near here we can go for a bite and keep talking..." decisive decisive decisive, yet still asking what they think. Coffee in my area is perceived as you aren't interested, so don't bother. I have also heard reviews that coffee is not a real date, so you may be perceived as low interest.
- Don't play day favorites, just queue em up.
- No more than 1.5w in advance, if they're busy or hesitant just drop them from the queue, and see if they follow up later. Don't go nuts about this, people's interest is everything.
Remember, the purpose of online dating is to MEET IN REAL LIFE, not message for weeks until someone CRACKS. (this is how I formalized it, if you find a new meme friend, idgaf what you do with your life :D )
My findings:
- App signal to noise ratio is: hinge, bumble, tinder, ok cupid, plenty of fish. Hinge was the highest quality matches both in terms of chatting up, and general partner coolness(?). My guess is because the messaging in Hinge forces you to interact meaningfully . Bumble was good, most women I met said they didn't like it because it forced them to engage. Tinder was fine, got picked up a couple of times on that one. Didn't bother with the other two after week one, quality was terrible.
- THE BAR IS INCREDIBLY LOW FOR MEN. If you are employed, and can speak to other people without being an asshole, you are ahead of the game. Don't believe me? Ask your next date what their worst experience is. I assure you it will be 10x worse than yours. Anecdote from my partner: guy: "oh you like dogs? let's go drink in a dog park!". He shows up already drunk, and then BLACKS OUT at the park. She ends up dumping him into a lyft and she goes home. 0/10. Same guy tries to match her 6m later.
- Men think paying for apps is a scam? I paid for the top three, and kept my queue full as long as possible until I found someone I kept around for 3w, then deactivate.
- Aggressively tune your profile. Less is probably more. Details are for the date. No negative things. This is not build-a-bear. You want your profile to INCLUDE, use your swipes to EXCLUDE. You choose who you go on a date with! This means you can exclude people that won't work for you.
- Guys get very uptight about "the algorithm" and will swipe right on everything. Let it work for you, and swipe left on anyone you wouldn't meet up with. Remember, the point is to MEET IN REAL LIFE.
- Dating can be expensive, but it doesn't have to be. You set the budget by where you go. Scale accordingly. You will mess this up once, and then not again.
I had a a total over 60ish dates, three longer term partners (>1m), picked up maybe five times, was a boy toy for a couple people. Overall, fun adventure, happily paired up for 3y now as a result of online dating.
Online dating is different things for different people, but those are my findings and how I approached it. This software sounds cool, I probably would have used it. :)
Sorry for the info dump, but I love hearing stories and helping people with their online profile. I used to be a kind of lightning rod for single dudes at bars and help them sort their profile out while also making friends with them. Two of the four of them got married to people from online dating, one is in a long term still, so I count that as a massive success!
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#178A lot of dunking going on in here, and fairly so, if nothing else because there is no good business model for an app like this unless they build it into dating apps (who's going to manually enter data from Tinder into this thing?). But the dunking seems to overlook the genuine problems with modern dating that didn't exist in the past. I find that it's very easy to mindlessly swipe a thousand people on an app and sudd…
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lots of attempts over the years at this personal crm problem space but no success to date. I did one on Facebook platform in 2008-09 called Socialfly, our tagline was ‘be twice the friend in half the time’. Problem is there’s a lot of input and upkeep which limits appeal, the most important social data sources (text & phone) are not accessible via api, its a personal tool that you don’t necessarily want to tell other…
Would accompany count? https://www.accompany.com/ not really personal, I believe it's business oriented.
Re: Salesforce, but for Dating
#180I fortunately found a life partner before dating apps took the foothold they have now, but from speaking with younger relatives and friends, I think virtually all of them (at least the male ones) could only dream of ever even being able to use something like this. It seems to me the far more common experience is for, at any given time, their number of active prospects through those apps to be on the order of 0. Or ar…