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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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inetknght wrote: post #138
gautamcgoel wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, what do you use the numpad for?

I'm not who you replied to, but: - typing numbers. - sometimes also: typing really long numbers - rarely, I'll use the numpad to hold my pinky finger. My control key, arrow key, and backspace key don't like this though. - I also use the +, -, and Enter keys too. - Asterisk is handy for multiplication. But slash is definitely not used ever. - Once in a while I might press the NumLock key. Usually it's pressed in pairs…

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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by p1necone »

lhl wrote: post #117

This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

On the screen - after using 3:2 and 16:9 laptops, I'll never go back to 16:9 again, so it's a definite deal breaker for me.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by quasarj »

inetknght wrote: post #138
gautamcgoel wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, what do you use the numpad for?

I'm not who you replied to, but: - typing numbers. - sometimes also: typing really long numbers - rarely, I'll use the numpad to hold my pinky finger. My control key, arrow key, and backspace key don't like this though. - I also use the +, -, and Enter keys too. - Asterisk is handy for multiplication. But slash is definitely not used ever. - Once in a while I might press the NumLock key. Usually it's pressed in pairs…

But how do you get over the embarrassment of how ugly your keyboard is? or how you have to type on the left side of it instead of the center?

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by JasonFruit »

karmakaze wrote: post #34

The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. There have to be other LCD panel makers out there. Either their customers don't care and/or the company doesn't care to make a better laptop.

I'm a customer, and I like the 16x9 screen. Works great for my old school workflows and aging eyes. Of course, I don't know what I'm missing.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by neither_color »

mulmen wrote: post #159

My 2014 RMBP is finally ready to go to the great messenger bag in the sky. Apple no longer provides updates and the battery is swelling. I'm not excited about the new MacBook offerings. The hardware is neat but the OS really turns me off. Apple is on a crusade to make MacOS unusable and the lack of stability in the environment is too much for me. I'm ready to make the leap into a Linux desktop environment just for th…

Do you game? Asus Zephyrus G14 is also AMD-only(mobile 6700 or 6800 graphics), premium build quality, and is available with a QHD display.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by Entinel »

doublepg23 wrote: post #163
lhl wrote: post #117

This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

I’m holding out hope on System76 designing truly custom hardware and we reach the fabled “MacBook of Linux” someday. As of now their Clevo rebadges don’t appeal to me, though their “custom” desktops do.

I think Framework is the closest thing to that.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by maxk42 »

gautamcgoel wrote: post #122
maxk42 wrote: post #71

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I refuse to buy any laptop without a numpad.

Just curious, what do you use the numpad for?

I have to do a lot of calculation on the fly. When I'm on a business call and someone gives me up-to-date metrics I frequently have to translate that into numbers that make sense for my business. (e.g. If I'm on the phone with a vendor and someone tells me their unit price is $1.44, I need to add that to my COGS, subtract the current unit price, and multiply by monthly or annual capacity to figure out how that's going to affect costs.) I can do this by touch while I'm talking in 2 - 3 seconds if I have a numpad. If I don't, I need both hands and roughly twice the time per calculation and I need to double-check I typed things right because the numbers aren't aligned quite the same way on each keyboard I use. It becomes a noticeable drag on productivity when I'm performing more complex ad hoc calculations for reports or presentations. I used a macbook for years and won't do it anymore. Linux on a computer with a numpad is the only way for me to go now.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by maxk42 »

quasarj wrote: post #173
inetknght wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not who you replied to, but: - typing numbers. - sometimes also: typing really long numbers - rarely, I'll use the numpad to hold my pinky finger. My control key, arrow key, and backspace key don't like this though. - I also use the +, -, and Enter keys too. - Asterisk is handy for multiplication. But slash is definitely not used ever. - Once in a while I might press the NumLock key. Usually it's pressed in pairs…

But how do you get over the embarrassment of how ugly your keyboard is? or how you have to type on the left side of it instead of the center?

It's a difficult task, but I shift my computer about 1.5 inches to the right.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by benatkin »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #149
linhns wrote: post #130

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I think you get what you pay for. Nicer hardware = more expensive. Maybe if this is successful the System76 will consider fast-tracking Ryzen 7000.

Except System76 charges premium prices for subpar hardware... Like they don't have anything built as nicely as a Dell XPS or a ThinkPad Z or X1 Carbon. Even Acers look more premium...

What the heck is their problem?!?! Surely a company 10 times the size of Dell could produce just as nice of a laptop design...

I think a Linux-only laptop is pretty cool, even if it has some tradeoffs.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by AnthonBerg »

jesuscript wrote: post #92
coder543 wrote: post #16

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It is a 144Hz display, which makes it significantly more interesting than an average 1080p display. 60Hz just feels so stuttery these days. But, I agree that a higher resolution would be nice, and if I'm being completely honest... I would want OLED. Tons of affordable OLED laptops have come to market over the past year.

Why does 144hz matter to you if you aren't playing games? This is not a gaming machine. You absolutely will not notice the difference for non-gaming tasks between 60hz to 80hz/100hz/120hz/144hz/244hz.

Trust me, there are people who notice the difference. After having tried a good 120Hz display for work I now go out of my way to not need to work on 60Hz displays. It’s more tactile, responsive and immediate. Smoother. Helps focus.
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