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Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by themitigating »

phpisthebest wrote: post #19
bubblethink wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I am pleased to have reached an agreement with the legislature to address these issues," Hochul wrote.

Yes I am aware of what she said. You have yet to provide what that means, clearly no vote took place as they are not in session. So how did the legislature agree, under what law, rule, or mechanism was this agreement reached. I have yet to see anyone explain that, they just keel quoting the governor which has zero meaning and given I do not trust the governor I have not reason to trust that statement

Basically you want all the blame to fall to her because she's a Democrat whereas the legislator is mixed.

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Post by ThrustVectoring »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #157
ThrustVectoring wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pure majoritarianism isn't necessarily best either, it just always takes the majority's side in disputes where a strongly-held minority opinion comes in conflict with a weakly-held majority one. Like, it's obvious that you should take the side of the majority when it's "we'd rather not be slightly inconvenienced by paying for rent-seekers" regardless of how intensely the minority of rent-seekers want to rent-seek, bu…

> but it's much less obvious that we should have zero handouts to narrow interests when it's "please spend $10000 per life saved via rare-disease research and treatment, I don't care how little the general public is aware of and cares about it and would generally prefer lower taxes" In reality, this turns into we should have billion dollar handouts to narrow interests because rather than use taxpayer funds to R&D cur…

Okay, make the hypothetical be malaria nets or insulin then. The exact specifics don't matter all that much, it's just an illustration that you can't use issue-by-issue majoritarianism to generate a coalition that can pass a broadly popular group of policies that lacks individual plank-by-plank popularity. There's no enforcement mechanism to coordinate a "you vote for my pet issue and I'll vote for yours".

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by TylerE »

pixelfarmer wrote: post #90
Zuiii wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then have a panel from canada's regulatory body review every case and fine those who misclassify their cancellation, then have an independent audit of those panels to avoid regulatory capture.

No, I would remove the exception and put up even heftier fines (i.e. costs more than the (partial) refunding) for safety violations. There should be structures and procedures for that in place already and you avoid creating even more bureacraziness with all the problems that brings.

That just incentivizes better lying, not better safety. These rules have been written in blood many times over.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by denton-scratch »

WalterBright wrote: post #88
smnrchrds wrote: post #44

I believe the analysis. Here in Canada, the government passed a law not that long ago (during the pandemic) to enshrine rights of passengers for delayed and cancelled flights, which included right to specific amounts of monetary compensation in those scenarios. The law, however, had an exception, where no compensation is due if the flight is delayed or cancelled due to a safety issue. Lo and behold, the airlines have…

On the other hand, punishing an airline for a delay due to a safety issue can have worse consequences.

> punishing an airline

The airline isn't being "punished" - they're being required to either complete a contract, or to compensate their counterparty for their failure to complete.

To take the example upthread, if the pizzaiolo drops a screw in my pizza, the resulting safety issue doesn't void the contract; he has to go off and make me a new pizza, or give my money back. It's not a punishment. If he can't complete on the contracts he makes, he has to stop selling pizzas or go broke.

I don't know any good reason why airlines shouldn't be subject to normal contract law.

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Post by specialist »

58028641 wrote: post #25

All of US politics is corrupted by the donors because Supreme Court has declared many laws against corruption unconstitutional. https://www.opensecrets.org/resources/learn/timeline

Just terrific. Illuminates the descent into madness most effectively. Thank you for sharing.

Yes and:

With Percoco v US and Ciminelli v. US, the current SCOTUS has another opportunity to bat down the government's ability to combat fraud.

https://crooked.com/podcast/making-fraud-great-again/

https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/ciminelli-v-unit...

Embarrassingly, or perhaps tellingly, SCOTUS has previously been non-partisan in asserting their own immunity to frivolous stuff like anti-fraud and ethical oversight.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by denton-scratch »

themitigating wrote: post #163
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really wish Zeldin wasn't an election denier. That's what made me vote for governor sellout.

We often have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Not really; I refuse to vote for evil politicians (it keeps my karma nice and shiny). Unless voting is mandatory, you can simply not vote for anyone. My practice is to vote for someone that won't win, like the Greens, but for whom my vote might save them their deposit.

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Post by Jon_Lowtek »

Buraksr wrote: post #130
Jon_Lowtek wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Legislative is not a single person, who weights the options, who accepts the governors revision on behalf of the senate and assembly?

The language on their website implies that they act collectively in the event of a veto “A vetoed bill can become law if two-thirds of the members of each house vote to override the Governor's veto.”[0]. Practically speaking, there are usually committees (may be area specific, or general such as scheduling/introductory) that make the first choice as to how the process will continue. For new york this seems to be the…

Thank you for the explanation, but that does not quite hit the spot: it explains what would happen if the governor vetoes the bill. In this case the governor claims she made some "agreement" with the Legislative to change the text of the bill shortly before signing it. And it appears that happened without Senate and Assembly voting on these changes, completely skipping this "final decision by the full membership".

I would like to know who the governor made an agreement with. The Standing Committees might be a possibility. kwiens named the bills sponsors as a possibility. (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34193369). If the bill was changed shortly before signing it, i would also like to know what the text of the signed bill is. This whole process implied by memorandum #93 seems irregular to me.

Stuff like this should be documented publicly, IMHO.

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Post by scarface74 »

free652 wrote: post #165
scarface74 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fly a lot. But only on Delta and American. So I can’t speak to the other airlines. But they both have three tiers of tickets for the same main cabin seating. For Delta those are basic, main and main refundable. Looking at a random domestic flight. The difference between the three tiers are about $30-$45 each. Never buy Basic. But if you at least by the middle tier, while the tickets aren’t refundable, you can chang…

The difference is a lot more, I usually see >100. But even for a cheap flight that was 138 jet blue basic, it's 60 for the middle tier and 110 extra for the refundable.

The middle tier is the real price in my opinion. The only reason the basic tier is there is as upsell opportunity and meant to be punishing.

I read somewhere that only 5% of seats sold on Delta are basic. I get it. It’s meant for people who are price sensitive. But aren’t those the ones who can least afford to lose money if something happens?

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by college_physics »

adaml_623 wrote: post #135
college_physics wrote: post #96

Every such event reminds me of that celebrated fraud of an academic who argued that corporations exist to maximize profit within the applicable legal framework and that it is how things should be. The fact that corporate entities actively shape the legal framework to suit narrow interests that frequently undermine collective welfware somehow escaped him. When intellectual dishonesty and amoral behavior reach such sys…

Really unclear comment. Who are you talking about

its been revealed by other comments. it might be a bit unfair to single out any particular person as responsible for providing intellectual cover to a manifestly inaquate ideology. he is basically just the convenient reference for an entire school of thought. had he not existed somebody else would have had that role.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by 0dayz »

denton-scratch wrote: post #176
themitigating wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We often have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Not really; I refuse to vote for evil politicians (it keeps my karma nice and shiny). Unless voting is mandatory, you can simply not vote for anyone. My practice is to vote for someone that won't win, like the Greens, but for whom my vote might save them their deposit.

Sure, but then you can't either act surprised when the more evil politicians are elected and blame people for either not voting or voting for better politicians.

You get what you vote or don't vote for

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