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Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Um what? The US is terrible in how employees are treated

Um What? have you actually worked in the US? I find alot of people in other nations often complain about the lack of US regulations with out understanding that most employers go far beyond what regulations require them. I for one do not want the Federal Government controlling my employment, I dont want the federal government doing anything other than national defense. So no I do not want EU employment laws here in th…

I work in the US

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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I swear, if Amazon was kidnapping people off the street and grinding them up to use the slurry as machine coolant, there would be people in threads like this saying, "Well, they could use water, but it's 25% less efficient which would increase costs, and at their scale those costs would be larger than the value of the lives of the people they're grinding up, so I see where they're coming from."

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Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.

If they need to lay off people, why are they advertising for, recruiting and offering jobs to people? If they can't do simple things like not hiring people they don't need, maybe they should employ this guy as HR manager.

Because conditions 6-9 months ago when the job posting was put online weren't the same as conditions today?

I moved countries within Amazon and it took 3 months, for an external applicant the bare minimum will be 4-6 months.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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On that last, beware the law of unintended consequence: that penalty would serve as a deterrent against making offers to visa users in the first place, if the company had no route out of it once offered. It's the same idea as European worker protection employment laws compared to the US: they sound good, but the effect is that companies have to be slower to hire when firing is that much harder.

> that penalty would serve as a deterrent against making offers to visa users It would put the additional costs they create to be visible. This is as it should be, since visa users do cost more than hiring domestic. However, it would not be much more. And if amazon deems it to be too expensive, then other companies which are more efficient can take up the spare visa users, just as the free market intends.

They should pay a penalty if they do this to someone domestically too. It's shitty.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Really sorry to hear that. This is a reminder that you should never work for Amazon if you need a visa. Sadly your story is not the first one I heard. The most recent, a friend of mine was promised they would support her visa application after one year working there (which is really simple and cheap for them) and now they say it is against their rules.

I'm curious if there will ever be an inflection point where Amazon's reputation is so bad that they just can't hire the workers they want, even with competitive total comp. My intuition is that there will always be enough people who are too desperate, or uninformed, to steer clear. I hope I'm wrong.

I wouldn't work for them if they offered me a million a year. Everything I've heard about them suggests they are unethical and have zero concern for their cattle.

But I'm not in the OP'S situation.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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#damagecontrol. Check out the amzn offers in EU asap, you were hired and that's status @amzn as long as the recruiter has any kind of hart they will get you on the table of eu recruiters. Good luck. Thare the exact positions urls to them you have a strong belief you fit.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

#177

Reach back out to Meta. They're not offended that you turned down their offer, they understand that situations change, and they very well might still want to hire you.

They laid off recently and I could not find any E4 job posting

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Not all jobs in US are in SV, Also in tech hubs like Dublin the prices are getting there

But the jobs outside of Silicon Valley will generally pay less too (unless you happen to be in another tech hub, but expect the cost of living to be greater there too). So you’re literally making the same point :)

While they pay less (not always) they pay better than EU one's plus taxes are lower in US.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

#179

You need a wrongful dismissal lawyer in the Canadian province you would have been working in. Canada has had a number of successful "wrongful hiring" lawsuits where the prospective employer has had to pay up. Likely you would win an amount equivalent to the severance you would be eligible for from your previous employer plus additional expenses for relocation. A letter from a wrongful dismissal lawyer will likely ope…

>Likely you would win an amount equivalent to the severance you would be eligible for from your previous employer plus additional expenses for relocation I wouldn't be hopeful about this. Speaking from the UK, we have wrongful dismissal that's basically a breach of contract, so you're basically eligible for the notice period, which is 2 weeks, although I think it takes a week to kick in. You could perhaps sue for oth…

> basically eligible for the notice period, which is 2 weeks

That depends on the contract. 2 weeks might be typical for a US contract but it can certainly vary.

> You could perhaps sue for other losses due to breach of contract but it wouldn't be wrongful dismissal and it would be a major departure from the British way of doing things.

I'm sorry I don't know where you get this idea of 'the British way of doing things' I've lived here my whole life and I've never heard this. Regardless, it doesn't constitute an argument. Consequential loss is absolutely a thing.

Re: Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period

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Happened to me as well, I got a visa and an offer to work in Japan. I resigned from my current company, send the leave notice for my apartment, started packing and was supposed to fly there a month later. Omicron appeared a few weeks later, Japan sealed their borders, canceled all pending visa. No exception. But Japanese nationals were still allowed to travel freely anywhere and get working visa for Europe (of course).

Luckily my previous job accepted to cancel the resignation and I managed to keep my apartment since I had a very good relation with my landlord. But I still hold a nasty grunge to the Japanese government for that dick move.

When I finally made it 18 months later, I got randomly interviewed at the airport and talked about this covid management shit show, the lack of reciprocity between JP and EU, their government's inability to take any sensible action in a whole year... Even the interviewer was embarrassed. Needless to say, the interview was never broadcasted.

Don't get me wrong, the Japanese are wonderful people and there is a lot to love about them, their culture and their language. But they're governed by (very) old and incompetent politicians that rules the country like we're in 1980 and never cease to amaze me by their inaction and lack of innovation.

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