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Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions

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Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions

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>> Not an issue imo That's an odd stance IMO. Should any service or software ever change a user's files without letting them know? I think not, regardless of what ever technobabble explains why it happens

They don’t change your files. iTunes / Apple Music match your with their catalog and basically flip a flag that says this song is in your library. If a song is in your library you can download the file on other devices, same as if you purchased the song from them. If I download the song from iTunes via Match it’s a DRM-ed version because they don’t upload files that match the music catalog so there’s no original to d…

I can guarantee you it is not true. If the matched song is removed from itunes store, I can only listen to it on my MacBook and cannot stream or download it on my iphone

Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions

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Y'alls with iPhones should checkout foobar2000 (it's actually multi-platform and the best music player); but, notably, directly related to the article: The iPhone foobar2000 version allows you, through its internal FTP server, to upload media in its native format (mp3,flac and many others) directly to the app. This means no more transcoding for iTunes, and all tags/filenames are retained. It also means your phone can…

foobar2000 on iOS is game-changing. Thank you so much for your recommendation!

The iOS Music.app is so bad. I've suffered long enough with it.

Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions

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Y'alls with iPhones should checkout foobar2000 (it's actually multi-platform and the best music player); but, notably, directly related to the article: The iPhone foobar2000 version allows you, through its internal FTP server, to upload media in its native format (mp3,flac and many others) directly to the app. This means no more transcoding for iTunes, and all tags/filenames are retained. It also means your phone can…

I can also highly recommend Plex and Plexamp. They're fantastic - I use it for storing my music on NAS and playing it from all my devices.

https://plexamp.com/

Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions

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The user was led to expect that their data would be in Apple Music. At that point, it would be completely reasonable for them to delete all copies of the files themselves in the understanding that Apple Music would actually absorb and retain the content it claimed to have imported.

“Was led to expect” or “expected”? It may be the former, but I don’t see any clear evidence for that in this page. The case that Apple led users to believe that, for me, would require showing what they tell users when you allow Apple Music to sync with your old iTunes library. Do they even use the word “Sync”? I wouldn’t know, and AFAICT this page doesn’t tell me.

If the user told it "import these files over here", or "absorb that collection over there", and it said "OK, I did it", without providing a big fat "you must click to acknowledge this specific fact" sort of warning about lost or modified files, then it led the user to expect that the stuff was imported.

Actually it would probably take several warnings. "The following files will not be imported. Click to accept.". "The following files will be replaced with DRM-encumbered versions. Click to accept.". "The following files will be replaced with versions that may be different performances, mixes, or encodings. Click to accept.". "The following files will be replaced with censored radio edits. Click to accept.".

Anything short of that is misleading. If "what they tell users" is ten paragraphs of crap with an oblique mention of their losing your files or replacing them with their "improved" DRM-and-censorship-included versions, that does nothing at all.

Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions

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I had my entire music collection stored on Google Play Music for a time, at one point being my only backup. When I tried to export my music collection, I discovered that not only were the file names and folder structures completely messed up, but I would sometimes get lower bitrate version of the songs or songs with "clean" lyrics - which I know for a fact wasn't what I had originally uploaded. I refuse to use music…

I had a different experience, on export my files were all in the original encoding. The value of Google Play Music was that you could upload files. I have also never had any files replaced. I have enjoyed self hosted solutions since YouTube Music broke the smart Playlist and integration for uploaded files with steaming files.

There are definitely differences between users on GPM and YTM export - https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2020/1...

Some people's exports miss the metadata entirely, some don't. Some even miss files out.

Re: Apple Music deletes your original songs and replaces them with DRM'd versions

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I have iTunes Match, but 1) it isn't free, 2) it doesn't seem to do what I want - and often mis-matches, and 3) it doesn't seem to play well with Apple Music songs. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to maintain a hybrid library that includes your (owned/library) songs as well as Apple Music (rented/streamed) songs and lets them coexist peacefully and easily sync and stream across devices. I don't understand the pa…

I can’t speak to the problems you alluded to since the system works well for me, but my pushback on the superiority claim is really just that I don’t think a ton of people have this problem. I think the average person is fine with the streaming services.

I think I was saying "it's superior for solving this problem" (based on context, OP's problem) and you're saying "the problem is uncommon in the streaming era" (different context, not OP's proiblem.) I don't find any disagreement.
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