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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by snowwrestler »

troydavis wrote: post #49

(from another thread) Any attorneys want to weigh in on whether - or when - this becomes an anti-competitive/anti-trust concern, either in the US (FTC) or the EU? Related reading: * Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) Article 102, on abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position in a market: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures... . Any EU resident can file a co…

I don’t see how this is a legal problem for Twitter, at least in the U.S. They are not a dominant force on the Web or even in social media; they have little market power. And any data that shows lots of people leaving for other social media platforms would actually help prove that competition is strong (ironically).

Free speech cuts both ways. It’s legal for Twitter to block links to Mastodon for the same reason it was legal for them to block the sitting U.S. President from posting.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by echelon »

choult wrote: post #19

"Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." This is not "free speech absolutism" in the slightest. It's not even business-savvy. Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype.

I tried really hard to stay an Elon fan.

SpaceX is a step function game changer, and Starlink was such a cool related market to break into.

Now I have to go change my Twitter profiles that have been the same for ages... Has Musk never heard of the Streisand effect?

I've always been bearish on TSLA. Now I think the narrative is changing. The market monopoly bull case never made sense. Every car company and nation will be pumping out EVs soon. I think the true value is half of Toyota's market cap, and I'll be buying puts on Monday.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by 10729287 »

amrocha wrote: post #149
10729287 wrote: post #114

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Actually only links to profiles calling for follow. If I understand correctly.

I don't think you're understanding correctly. It doesn't even allow link aggregators such as link tree, on posts or bios.

I didn't talk about those but deep links to Facebook or Instagram posts. If I'm no mistaken those are authorized.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by root_axis »

tlogan wrote: post #117
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #36

Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

> he just lied. But why?

Because lying helped further his narrative in the public which is advantageous to him. Similar to how he lied for years about FSD.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by nailer »

Hrm I’m not sure this is the hypocrisy HN thinks it is. Musk wanted to stop biased moderation. He’s done so. He wanted what twitter has done previously in terms of biased moderation to be public. He’s done so. He wanted journalists to be under the same rules as other content creators. He’s done so.

Is he obliged to let people promote competitors on Twitter?

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by jacquesm »

est31 wrote: post #108

When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…

I moved to Gitlab and stayed there. Principles and all that.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by bko »

kevinmgranger wrote: post #159
bko wrote: post #136

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It's because Musk is commonly defended, and borderline worshiped across most of HN. The downfall of twitter is the perfect opportunity for a wake-up call. And that's why this type of comment is more and more visible.

So you're saying that low quality low information comments are "sticking it to him and his supporters" as opposed to a more thought out comment regarding the policy or direction? And this will "wake up" his supporters by calling him a narcissist and thin skinned for the umpteenth time (in the same comment thread!)

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by nailer »

synu wrote: post #146
nailer wrote: post #123

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I’ve definitely linked to my profiles on other sites before and never been banned or even warned.

There’s been reports of mastodon links being handled oddly for a while prior to this announcement. Not insta though. Odd Twitter considers them a competitor though Insta did get big through twitter originally.
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